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Winkler delivers message of love and forgiveness(Father of Slain Preacher)
The Camden Chronicle (Tennessee) ^ | 3/29/06 | Staff

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:39:17 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo

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Dan Winkler, the father of the deceased, is a preacher in Huntingdon Tennessee. These are good people and it is sad that such horrible events has befallen them.
1 posted on 03/29/2006 1:39:19 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

How very true.


2 posted on 03/29/2006 1:43:10 PM PST by Jaded (The truthshall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; Sloth

Thanks for the post. :)

Ping. Thought you might like to read this.


3 posted on 03/29/2006 1:54:12 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
each family member visited with Mary Winkler, embraced her and reaffirmed their love for her with a willingness to forgive Gods love and the ability to not hate people will get you through many trials. God bless this wonderful family.
4 posted on 03/29/2006 1:54:40 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: OrangeDaisy; txroadkill

Ping! Very nice article about the Winklers.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 1:56:21 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I know a lot of people here are wont to speculate that the deceased was a child molester.

The more I read about this the more I think the perpetrator of the crime was just a hate-filled bitch who killed her husband in cold blood and deserves to die.

That is just speculation and it may well be that in some way "he deserved it." But until we know that he was a child molester I think we need to give equal time to the speculations that he isn't to blame; but that she is simply evil and had no reason to kill.

I have to say...her pictures give me the creeps. A little bit too much of an Andrea Yates look for me.


6 posted on 03/29/2006 1:58:30 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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The Hasslebeck(sp) broad on the View was speculating on what the Minister could have done to drive his wife to murder. I am paraphrasing, but she was pretty blatant about her insinuation.
7 posted on 03/29/2006 2:01:16 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The world is thankfully getting to see the truth of that ("these are good people")in the face of so much ignorance and misinformation about the church of Christ. They are fine Christian examples. God bless them.


8 posted on 03/29/2006 2:08:27 PM PST by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: satchmodog9

I am not familiar with that show (?) but I am guessing it is a tv talk or something?

At any rate, my question is simply: why are we assuming that he (ie, the dead guy on the floor with the holes in his back) drive her to murder?

Now if it had been the other way around, they would all be asking why such an awful man hadn't already been locked up.

Is there a presumption of guilt on the part of the man anytime a man is involved in a crime - even if his involvement is victim?

Is that where we are nowadays?

I guess this is just a logical extension of the NOW gang who thought that Andrea Yates was basically a freedom fighter, a rallying cry for all women....

Unfortunately what has really got me upset is the large number of freepers who go along with the idea that the preacher must be a child molester...after all, the underlying assumption being, it is just not thinkable that it is simply her evil that drove her to this wicked deed - not his.

It may turn out yet that she was justified. But I must say judging by the response of his obviously God-fearing family, I am starting to doubt that.


9 posted on 03/29/2006 2:18:29 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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I agree. I'm in Middle TN and everyone is saying "he must have been doing something to those daughters" or "there must have been another woman."

I just think she's nuts.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 2:28:06 PM PST by cpanter
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To: ConservativeDude

I thot she had a Yates look, too. And I cannot stand 'he probably deserved it' -- innocent 'til proven guilty, no?


11 posted on 03/29/2006 2:34:28 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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It is a left wing hag bitchfest of a talk show. I will not make a judgment on this until I have some facts. I wish sea hags and talking heads would also keep their mouths shut.
12 posted on 03/29/2006 2:40:52 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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It is a left wing hag bitchfest of a talk show."

Oh, great...sorry I missed THAT one...shudder


13 posted on 03/29/2006 2:54:08 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: hopespringseternal; ClancyJ; Lucas McCain; PFKEY; asformeandformyhouse; Colonel Kangaroo; ...
'Church of Christ Ping List'

FReepmail me if you wish to be added to or removed from this rarely-used list.

Thanks for the heads up, EmilyGeiger.

14 posted on 03/29/2006 3:04:40 PM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Sloth

didn't know there was a cofC ping list. Please add me.


15 posted on 03/29/2006 3:08:58 PM PST by 1riot1ranger
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To: 1riot1ranger; Sloth
I just received this in my email box. I have cross posted it on the main thread about the Winkler case.

From: Ken Stegall
Subject: Church of Christ maligned on CNN

If you were watching CNN Headline News last night (3/27/06), you witnessed a vicious attack on the reputation of the Church of Christ on the "Nancy Grace" segment of the news.

Nancy Grace is a former prosecutor and current host of a CNN Headline News show every weeknight. Her topic for last night's segment was the shooting death of Matthew Winkler, the Church of Christ preacher in Selmer, TN. She interviewed and showed film clips from various people associated with this distressing event.

Included among her guests was a Baptist preacher, Tom Rukala, who maliciously maligned the Church of Christ... [I have attached a link below to the written transcript on CNN's website.]

I'm writing this to encourage you to email CNN and/or Nancy Grace to express your feelings regarding the unfair characterization of the Church of Christ portrayed by her guest, Tom Rukala.

I feel it is reasonable to request that she has an interview with a Church of Christ preacher/member who will have the opportunity to give a rebuttal to the false characterization presented on this program.

I personally feel that her program has many positive elements. She is a "victim's rights advocate" who insists that criminals should be prosecuted. Unfortunately, the individual she chose as her "special guest" to inform her audience about the Church of Christ was extremely prejudice. As a result, the listeners were blatently misinformed.

At the bottom of the attachment, I have included two sites designed for feedback; one for CNN, the other for Nancy Grace . . . Feel free to pass this email to those whom you feel may also wish to express their sentiments regarding this public defamation.

Nancy Grace Transcript

Send your email comments to CNN: CNN Feedback
Send your email comments to Nancy Grace: Nancy Grace Feedback

16 posted on 03/29/2006 3:11:02 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: Sloth

I've been missing my COC cohorts.


17 posted on 03/29/2006 3:11:08 PM PST by ClancyJ (The New York Times is Aiding and Abetting the Enemy - They are Traitors and Put Our Families at Risk)
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To: satchmodog9

It appears that the TBI doesn't think he was abusing the children or wife and they are the investigating agency.

This is a quote from TBI spokesperson Jennifer Johnson when she appeared on Larry King Live:

JOHNSON: I think everything about this case is puzzling. I don't think there's any information that could come out that would really make sense of it all and I think that's really where the public is right now. They want some reasonable explanation for this and I think we all have to brace ourselves for the fact that it may never come. They never get a reasonable explanation or a satisfactory answer.

CALLER: I have a question. Could the motive have been that Mr. Winkler could have been abusing his wife or children in any way?

JOHNSON: A lot of people have asked that question and from the very moment that we came upon the scene we actually looked and there's no history of domestic violence. As I said earlier, we can't share the motive but I think, you know, the history does sort of speak for itself.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 3:15:40 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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One of my coworkers grew up going to church with Dan Winkler as his minister. Reverend Winkler's slain son, Brian, was in his school but a couple of years younger than he is, so he knew him, but not well. Some of my coworker's family still lives in that home town (not where the murder took place) and the gossip there is that the wife was bipolar and had gone off her meds.

This looks like a tragedy, aided and abetted by "modern chemistry" and the medical profession.

Pray for all involved and condemn any who try to tarnish the victim of this murder in any way without absolute proof.

19 posted on 03/29/2006 3:22:26 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

True Christians. They must be following what the Bible teaches. How often do we hear relgious leaders calling for revenge or claiming one must stand up for one's "rights"?


20 posted on 03/29/2006 3:41:05 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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