[MikeA]

Gulliani or McCaine are the only ones who I can see taking this on....Allen would be roadkill.

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You've got it. You're not going to beat a superstar with a dimbulb. And few people outside of Virginia and right wing politics have heard of Allen nor will be impressed by his odd demeanor and professions of being a Reagan clone. We have to have a candidate voters know and trust and McCain or Rudy are it. Allen just doesn't have heft as is clear by his inability to beat even a half-wit like Barbara Boxer or even to respond to her in a TV appearance on Late Edition back in September. I just cannot believer our fellow Freepers aren't thinking this one out and are just being lead by the rings in their noses by talk radio dogma.

[Sonny M]

We have to have a candidate voters know and trust and McCain or Rudy are it.

If Rudy ever got the nomination, this conservative and a whole host of others would simply stay home (I wouldn't even waste my time voting 3rd party).

If I wanted Hillary's policies on social issues, I'd vote for her, whats the point of voting for someone who agrees with Hillary on about 50% to 60% of the issues?

I can't even see conservatives voting for McCain (I sure as hell wouldn't).

If the recipe for Hillary losing is electing a liberal, then there is no point in voting in the first place.

[Revenge of Sith]

Very few Americans (outside their respective home states) heard of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton less than a year before each man was elected president.