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To: LibertarianInExile; P8riot
He ended up on our side eventually. But I can't wholly trust him because of that flip-flop, as well as his flip-flop on hate crimes.

So, you're one of those guys who wants to lobby to get your way, and when you get it you're still not satisfied?

Gun owners have nothing to fear from George Allen. There is no one on the GOP horizon (as in serious contender) who is more "on our side."

Allen's statement on the Hate Crimes Bill:

"When I ran for the U.S. Senate in 2000, I stated numerous times that I would support adding 'sexual orientation' to the category of 'hate crimes,' unless the legislation raised 'sexual orientation' to the level of a civil right, which I could not support," Allen said. He explained that the 2004 amendment was "different from earlier proposals," and "(did) not elevate 'sexual orientation' to civil rights status."

See your problem is getting your "facts" about Allen from the people who are professional campaign whiners. They'll never be satisfied. And, if they stop complaining, they'll be out of a job.

Unfortunately for them, and perhaps you (perhaps not), the Apostle Paul isn't running and Alan Keyes will never be President.

Allen isn't perfect, and I've never claimed that he was. But, IMHO, he's the best out there.

165 posted on 03/30/2006 7:45:47 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I don't demand perfection--I voted for Bush, twice. And I don't like Alan Keyes. See, I demand a degree of consistency, and two flip-flops like this and relative inconsistency on immigration make me wary of Allen. Keyes flip-flopped on his basic positions in Illinois. But Allen, the guy signed off on a GOA survey as supporting the right to bear arms then publicly flip-flopped, and you claim it's testimony to HIM when he bows to lobbying against such a sellout? The guy said he wouldn't vote for elevating sexual orientation to a hate crime and now you take his evasive reason for doing exactly that as gospel? You act as if I should trust someone who's had to be lobbied to KEEP HIS WORD. With your degree of gullibility, I wouldn't trust you to manage a hot dog cart. You'd probably better stop supporting Allen, because if other people find out a sucker like you is associated with him, they may think twice.

He might yet end our candidate, but the election is years away and the GOP deserves a proven, conservative nominee. If Allen isn't it, we ought to know before anointing him. Posting his flip-flops isn't whining--it's telling the truth instead of blowing smoke about Allen like so many seem eager to do.


166 posted on 03/30/2006 7:59:26 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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