[SDGOP]

world where there is no clamor, UNFORTUNATELY, for a big roll back of govt. and that they'll not automatically vote for a guy who stumbles in the debates and seems ineffectual against Democratic onslaughts and who is no one they know and who seems like a deer in the headlights against tough questions and attacks. Just because Allen appeals to you does not mean he'll appeal to swing and independent voters, the voters among whom elections are won. We can run a conservative candidate, I would like one myself, but he's got to be one who can forcefully and compellingly ennuciate the conservative message and Allen isn't it. Just saying "Reagan" alot is not going to be as impressive to general election voters as it is to you. You just made my case for me. People are always ready to roll back government and poll after poll shows people think government has grown too big. Only a liberal republican would argue that we can't roll back government now.

[MikeA]

You just made my case for me. People are always ready to roll back government and poll after poll shows people think government has grown too big. Only a liberal republican would argue that we can't roll back government now.


Get off the planet SDGOP. Not everyone thinks like you. Every time the GOP tries even the most modest government roll-back, we get our heads beat in. I guess you forgot the mid-1990s and what the Democrats did to us then over merely wanting to reduce the growth of government. And that was before 9-11. Go look at any poll and show me one where the size of government is mentioned as being the most important issue or even anything more than a blip.

That being said, I think the GOP should make the case that we need to downsize government, but that has to come after securing the White House in 2008. We need an EFFECTIVE spokesperson who can make that case and Allen isn't it. I feel McCain could be more effective at it by starting with rolling back pork spending. He has credibility on that issue and he could then leverage that political capital to then work on rolling back govt. in other ways.

So now do you want to respond to the SUBSTANCE of my post or do you just want to take me out of context AGAIN to try to prove me a "RINO?" As I said, if you want to have an intelligent, civil debate then let's have it. If you want to just keep making this about me then I'll accept your admission of defeat implied in your inability to stop labelling me and to stop making this debate about how you misperceive my views.