Posted on 03/28/2006 2:45:01 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan
Also interetsing that Christ said the greatest commandment was to "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself". No mention of different races at all. Also, the Jew (saved) vs. Gentile (unsaved) in the OT (which is of course reversed now--the saved are the followers of the Christ).
People that had been married and had kids before started playing for the other team. I knew one woman that was married for 23 years and had two(2) kids before she switched. I also knew a guy that was married 19 years and had three(3). He went so far as to get the full blown gender switch after his divorce.
Isolation of a "gay gene" will spell the end of Roe and the dems.
Then they're bisexual, not homosexual.
Indeed. Now for my standard post on the subject:
There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one's sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we're really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.
But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don't believe the ex-gay claim, they don't believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.
When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says--thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)--he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.
Ah- but that is PRECISELY what this means.
" I was born this way." is the excuse for every anti-social,pathological aberration in humankind now!
The arsonist- " I like to watch things burn, I was born this way!"-
The pedophile- " I like little children, I was born this way!"
The sadist- " I like to hurt people, I was born this way!"
The sado-masochist, the pathological liar, the serial killer who hears 'voices',all can claim they were 'born that way'- with an irresistable urge to act as they do.
And I believe them- I do believe some people are born with the urge to do unspeakable, vicious things.
Just as with physical birth-defects, some people are born psychologically defective. But science tries to find CURES for physical birth-defects, and psychiatrists USED to try to cure psychiatric defects.
Now, with homosexuality considered just another trait- like curly hair-the door is open for ALL human aberrancies to be called 'diversity'. After all- if you were BORN that way, how can it be bad?
Homosexuality is a birth-defect, IMO. A mis-wiring of the brain. But that doesn't make it good and natural for them to
be attracted to the same sex any more than it is natural for a pyromaniac to get their jollies by setting things on fire.
Well we're on the same page.
If homosexuality was a birth defect there would be not one former homosexual. But there are many.
Are you saying that no one has ever been cured of a cleft palate, or had an inherited psychiatric disorder cured or controlled with medicine?
How about alcoholism? Even tho they are always considered alcoholics( because the tendency to crave alcohol is still present), some do manage to stop drinking. Some permanently, some give in to the urge after years of denial.
Being born with the urge to do something, and acting on the urge are different things. Homosexuality is as abnormal as a cleft palate or the urge to damage/destroy yourself.
"The real issue here is homosexual actions that society has deemed immoral and, in many instances, illegal. Since no study has firmly established an underlying genetic cause for homosexuality, arguments suggesting “equal rights” are both baseless and illogical."
Actually, it is morality itself that is viewed as immoral in today's topsy turvy world.
Indeed. But there is absolutely no evidence homosexuals are born with the urge.
Or pushed.
I think some of your comparisons are apples and not even oranges, maybe apples and eggplants.
A cleft palate is a very obvious physical defect, visible from birth, and has nothing to do with behavior, and can't change with environment. Homosexuality, OTOH, (literally Same Sex Attraction Disorder) doesn't "show up" until usually puberty or often much later. A huge percentage of homosexuals were molested when young and had bad or non-existent relationships with fathers. It is a learned behavior and emotional psychological dysfunction. The behavior is voluntary, although the attraction usually isn't. Interesting that a small but significant percentage actually state that they did in fact choose to be homosexual - last I read it was 8%.
Check out these articles for information on the causes of homosexuality:
http://www.narth.com/docs/pieces.html
How Might Homosexuality Develop?
Putting the Pieces Together
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420619/posts
Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences
http://www.drthrockmorton.com/idoexist.asp
Then why worry about it?
I used to think it would make some kind of difference if it could be proved that people were gay because they were born that way. But really it makes no difference if it is a choice or a genetic imperative. It makes no difference from a "rights" standpoint since a gay person can still say they have a RIGHT to "chose: to be gay. And it makes no difference from a genetic stand point either because a gay person can also say they were born gay and have a RIGHT to actualize that state.
I don't bout that....when I was a kid there was always a faggy kid or 2 even in 1st grade...they were always kind of a homo from jump. I think they are born that way.
Girls...thats another story.
Gender cannot be “switched.”
No matter how many X-chromosomes there are, any individual with the Y-chromosome is male. No person is "transgendered," nor can any person have a “sex change;” it is disfigurement and erroneous terminology.
Any hypothesis of a "gay gene" is duplicitous fallacy. Homosexuality: a birth defect, mental illness or choice? Logic?
There are genetic abnormalities/defects, but these are not procreant genotypes: XO (Turner syndrome), XXY (Klinefelter syndrome), XXX (poly-X syndrome), and XYY (Jacob syndrome). No matter how many X-chromosomes there are, any individual with the Y-chromosome is male. These anomalies are so few, only one in several thousands occurs.
You express yourself like you are still in the 1st grade... maybe that is why you think that...
Please click the links in my comment above and read about the causes of homosexuality. It really isn't a mystery.
"Then why worry about it?"
Because the tiny percentage and their affiliates are shoving down the rest of our throats, especially kids in school.
You like that?
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