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Doomsday for Islam?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/28/06 | Robert Pfriender

Posted on 03/28/2006 2:38:09 PM PST by LibWhacker

The focus on the ports fiasco obviously would pale in comparison to a terror nuke actually detonating in one of our ports. But what about the flipside of that terrible event? What would happen to Islam as a result of a massive nuclear retaliatory counterstrike against Islamic targets?

Perhaps this week's most ominous headline was "Islamic websites carry al-Qaida's Last Warning." The story in WorldNetDaily detailed how Osama bin Laden's terror group plans to bring destruction upon the United States and force it into surrender. Apparently this is more of the same threat that has been circulating for some time that al-Qaida plans to detonate seven nuclear warheads it claims to have acquired from Pakistan and the former Soviet Union in the United States. There have also been accompanying threats that al-Qaida planned to follow up the nuclear attacks with crop-dusting planes that would spread smallpox on American cities.

Despite grandiose plans for such an attack on the United States, bin Laden has again failed to understand the nature of the American spirit and the likely vengeance such an attack would unleash from American military strategic nuclear forces. Since the United States entered the era of nuclear weapons technology many decades ago, it has always had detailed contingency plans on how the country would respond in a nuclear crisis.

Perhaps best known among those contingency plans is the one drawn up during the Cold War with the Soviets commonly described as "MAD," or Mutual Assured Destruction. Simply, MAD is the doctrine whereby the United States sought to dissuade its adversaries from ever even considering a nuclear attack against our country by assuring that such an attempt would be met with such a hyper-violent nuclear response that would undoubtedly result in the annihilation of not just the United States, but also the enemy that initiated the attack.

For some odd reason, bin Laden and his fanatical associates seem to believe that the United States would back down in the face of a nuclear terror attack. It would seem that their psychotic thought processes have blinded their judgment in a profound and ultimately self-destructive way. Their warped perception leads them to believe that such an attack could not be traced back to their hands and hence the United States would be left with no retaliation targets. They obviously fail to see the difference between tactical and strategic planning and this error may ultimately lead Islam to disaster.

Enter what history may someday describe as the Bush doctrine of "Terror-MAD," the likely response to a terror nuke attack on our country. Although no one in government will confirm such a doctrine even exists, simple common sense and past comments by government officials to the press would indicate that, in fact, it does exist. And herein is Mr. bin Laden's very fatal flaw.

A terror nuke attack upon the United States would undoubtedly unleash a response by American strategic nuclear forces so violent and so encompassing that the very future of Islamic society around the world would likely be permanently wiped from the face of the planet.

Bear in mind the reality of such an attack against the United States. Not only would the United States not be chastised by the international community for such a massive counterstrike, but no one in the American government would likely care about what others think under such circumstances. While we're busy throwing all those retaliatory nukes around, who is going to standup and object? Certainly, it won't be Russia to complain since they have their own serious radical Islam problem to deal with in former republics on its borders.

Let's be reminded that there is no provision in any of the Pentagon's war plans or myriad assortment of contingency plans for a national surrender. It would just never happen under any circumstance. Actually, the Pentagon's logic is that for each escalation of attack against us our response would be a vastly increased level of violence against our adversary. And you can be sure – when push comes to shove – whatever weapon is in the inventory will be used ... nothing will be held back.

Such a contingency plan is likely contained in the largely still-classified document called the Nuclear Posture Review, the comprehensive war plan for the Pentagon. Unlike bin Laden's shortsighted tactical plans, the Pentagon has an extremely detailed strategic plan for dealing with essentially any circumstance, threat or contingency that may conceivably face our nation.

The likely target list for retaliation for a nuclear terror attack against the United States includes Iran, Syria, and Libya as the primary targets. We can supplement those targets with countries such as Saudi Arabia – where most of the 9-11 terrorists came from (and that are most likely targeted with the "neutron bomb" designed with such a scenario in mind that kills with enhanced radiation levels but essentially leaves facilities and oil infrastructure intact – except for holy sites such as Mecca, Medina, Hebron, Qom and others, which planners might want to completely annihilate). There are likely other "Islamic" countries also on the potential target list and even ones we generally consider as being friendly to the U.S. such as Pakistan, especially if radicals gained control of its nuclear weapons.

You may recall that Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., suggested exactly that awhile back, and while his statement met with denials from the State Department, the Department of Defense and the White House were silent on the Tancredo comment. A statement previously released from the Pentagon says, "The Department of Defense continues to plan for a broad range of contingencies and unforeseen threats to the United States and its allies. We do so in order to deter such attacks in the first place ... This administration is fashioning a more diverse set of options for deterring the threat of weapons of mass destruction," the Pentagon statement also said.

While the Pentagon was busy "cleaning house" our strategic nuclear force would also likely target North Korea just to be certain we don't face any additional threats while we are in a recovery mode from the terror attack. Depending on the circumstances at the time of the attack against us, the Pentagon might even include China on the potential target list since China's own military doctrine (especially "Unrestricted Warfare") could be interpreted as using any advantage such as an already weakened United States to further its own military goals. Simply, our military planners would likely destroy every conceivable real or imagined threat to our country after we are attacked with a nuke.

Americans as a whole seem to have tremendous patience, much more so than say Islamic countries. The American flag is burned on a daily basis in many countries during what seem like endless protests against our country and it hardly elicits any response at all here. On the other hand, a few cartoons – even ones showing Muhammad in a favorable way – sends masses of violent protestors into the streets in Islamic countries. However, we do have limits to our patience. If we got nuked, there would undoubtedly be a tremendous outcry for massive retaliation. After all, the country quickly united on Sept. 12, 2001, and widely supported President Bush's initiative to attack Afghanistan.

According to the portions of the Nuclear Posture Review that are public, nuclear weapons can be used "in retaliation for the use of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons," or "in the event of surprising military developments." It also recognizes the need for nuclear retaliation in cases of "immediate, potential or unexpected" contingencies against potential adversaries that have "long-standing hostility towards the United States and its security partners" including countries that "sponsor or harbor terrorists, and have active WMD [weapons of mass destruction] and missile programs."

Former U.S. Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton (now U.S. ambassador to the United Nations) said a while back:

"We would do whatever is necessary to defend America's innocent civilian population ... The idea that fine theories of deterrence work against everybody ... has just been disproven by Sept. 11."

National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has said that the Bush administration wants to "send a very strong signal to anyone who might try to use weapons of mass destruction against the United States." Further, "The only way to deter such a use is to be clear it would be met with a devastating response," she said. A State Department spokesman has previously stated "if a weapon of mass destruction is used against the United States or its allies, we will not rule out any specific type of response."

Considering the huge number of nuclear weapons in the United State's inventory, there would be no need to pick and choose targets for economy purposes. While bin Laden's claim that he has a few nukes (which may or may not be still operational) may turn out to be true, there is the utmost certainty that the United States has a huge number (somewhere in the thousands) of extremely well-maintained and very reliable nuclear warheads in all shapes and sizes for every possible purpose.

A nuclear attack on America by al-Qaida would – by many informed accounts – lead to a renewed crusade to destroy Islam throughout the world. Bin Laden's grandiose plan to destroy modern civilization and restore some absurd form of radical Islamic rule throughout the entire world will undoubtedly have exactly the opposite effect. Already we see a tremendous backlash against most things Islamic, the recent port fiasco is a perfect case in point. Imagine the reaction after a nuke attack.

Absent an international movement by those in the moderate Islamic community – who can and should be able to locate and bring Mr. bin Laden and his despicable cohorts to justice – he just might one day make good on his threat to nuke America.

In his fanatical zeal to convert the entire world to radical Islam, there will be two groups of victims resulting from bin Laden's insanity – innocent people just wanting to live their normal lives here in our country, and Islam itself with its followers throughout the world. Such a result would hardy be considered a noble pursuit and or end-result by people who claim to be the servants of their God.

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Robert Pfriender is the founder and president of Allied International Development, Ltd., a privately held real estate development and construction management firm located on Long Island, N.Y., that tried to persuade the U.S. government to allow a private consortium to build offshore ports in which all incoming cargo containers could be inspected, preventing all weapons of mass destruction from ever reaching American shores.


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KEYWORDS: bomb; doomsday; iran; islam; nuclear; nukemtiltheyglow; nukes; tellthemwhatwewilldo; thermonuclear
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To: Teacher317
Our hundreds of billions were spent on the MAD philosophy. For actual offensive or defensive use in the War on Terror/Islam/Extremists, they're virtually useless.

Not according to the article. 'Every conceivable real or imagined threat" doesn't allow for much discrimination in targeting.

41 posted on 03/28/2006 3:20:08 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: LibWhacker
A terror nuke attack upon the United States would undoubtedly unleash a response by American strategic nuclear forces so violent and so encompassing that the very future of Islamic society around the world would likely be permanently wiped from the face of the planet.

The author of that statement is confusing what should be with what will be.

42 posted on 03/28/2006 3:20:56 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Right Wing Assault; Ragnar54
I always thought it was interesting that there were no Muslims on Star Trek.

I think warp drive doesn't work on people from the 10th century.

ROTFLMAO!!!

43 posted on 03/28/2006 3:21:54 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Jim Noble

Every oil dependant country that has, up to this point in time, been afraid to confront the muslim horde.

Remove them, and watch how suddenly brave countries become.


44 posted on 03/28/2006 3:22:21 PM PST by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: LibWhacker

This country will never respond with nukes.

Sorry, not in the cards.

Talk is cheap but when it comes right down to it our politicians will never hit the button.

Now if they came out right now and said "Any nuke strike on this country from Islamo-terrorists and Mecca will be nuked 24 hours later". That I could believe.


45 posted on 03/28/2006 3:22:50 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Strategerist
You can't "nuke all the Muslims" by tossing nukes willy-nilly around the world ...

Yeah, you can. Do you think if the former USSR and the US nuked each other that only the bad guys would die? Come on. Many innocents will die -- on our side and their side.

Eight nukes go off in the US and 3,000 nukes will go off in Muslim countries that support Osama. It might not be "fair", but little is fair in "to the death" type wars.

Many people will turn the keys together if they know their families are dead. And we'll expect that of them.

Sitting in a sub, wondering what to do with whole cities dead? They'll think. Target a Muslim country and let 'em fly or sit and cry? And then they'll act. They'll "target". And target. And target again.

It'll be the World War everyone wanted to avoid, but couldn't.

Muslim countries that want to survive better talk Osama into getting real, and fast -- 'cause if he moves to kill us, we'll fight back.

46 posted on 03/28/2006 3:23:51 PM PST by GOPJ (Peace happens when evil is vanquished -- Cal Thomas)
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To: Jim Noble
there is no possibility that either George Bush or Hillary Clinton would do such a thing - not in a million years

As far as Bush is concerned, I think you may be wrong on that one.

47 posted on 03/28/2006 3:25:49 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Jim Noble
No, neither of them would unleash a massive, global nuclear response. That will not happen, God forbid.

However I do think that we would respond in kind. An eye for an eye, a city for a city. May as well start with Tehran.

48 posted on 03/28/2006 3:26:35 PM PST by Sender (As water has no constant form, there are in war no constant conditions. Be without form. -Sun Tzu)
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To: jiggyboy
Let's see the U.S. shoot at one GD mosque full of terrorists and bombs and guns first for Christ's sake.

Fallujah.
49 posted on 03/28/2006 3:26:45 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: GOPJ
If radical Muslims want to "pull the knife", we'll kill them all. Easily. Quickly. It'll be over in 45 minutes. All their holy sites, all their oil fields, all their dreams. Gone. And we'll come back. They never will. Arabs who love their life and lifestyle should turn Osama and goons in -- cause we won't put up with this crap forever...

Well said, GOPJ.

50 posted on 03/28/2006 3:27:15 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: PeteB570
This country will never respond with nukes

Do you think we maintain them for show?

51 posted on 03/28/2006 3:27:35 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: LibWhacker
For some odd reason, bin Laden and his fanatical associates seem to believe that the United States would back down in the face of a nuclear terror attack. It would seem that their psychotic thought processes have blinded their judgment in a profound and ultimately self-destructive way. Their warped perception leads them to believe that such an attack could not be traced back to their hands and hence the United States would be left with no retaliation targets.

On the contrary, we can tell not only which nation supplied the plutonium and which reactor, if they have more than one. That's assuming a plutonium bomb, which a Soviet or Pakistani bomb, perhaps even a North Korean one, would likely be. A uranium bomb is more problematical, but would indicate f crude device, and thus point the finger at an emerging nuclear capability, like that of Iran.

While we've cut our inventory of missiles, bombers and warheads considerably since the George Bush and even Ronald Reagan administrations, we've still got plenty for the few worthwhile targets the more extreme members of the Islamic world provide. (For example we once had 1054 land based ICBM, those 54 were Titan IIs with big multi megaton warheads. Now we have about 550, none of them MIRVed, plus all those (MIRVED) birds in the Ohio class boomers, plus gravity bombs for strategic (B-2, B-1A, B-52H) bombers and tactical fighters.

52 posted on 03/28/2006 3:27:41 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Canard
I very much doubt that a terrorist nuke would lead to a scattergun nuclear barrage against a range of Middle Eastern countries, including important strategic allies. If a particular state was found to be complicit in the attack, that would very much be another matter of course.

We know who the terrorist supporting states are, I don't think we'd wait around for concrete "proof" of complicity, or for another attack either. At least not before the end of 2008. After that, all bets are off, and we might not retaliate at all with nukes. Instead we might just whine to the UN, and maybe shoot a few cruise missiles up a few camel's butts.

53 posted on 03/28/2006 3:30:28 PM PST by El Gato
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To: The_Republican

WorldNetDailey = neoCon?


54 posted on 03/28/2006 3:31:44 PM PST by bkepley
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To: Ragnar54

Science Fiction is about the future.


55 posted on 03/28/2006 3:32:08 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: paul51
"This country will never respond with nukes
Do you think we maintain them for show?"

For all intensive purpose they are just for show. We have shown them we can not close the deal in regards to war. We convict our own troops when they point a barking dog at prisoner. They know we are weak and do not have what it takes to defeat them. Sure we can fight them and have some nifty pictures and film but we will not defeat these Muslims until we get medieval on them. When they get a nuke they will use it and we will go fight somebody else and be in a stalemate. My only hope it is on a blue city if God says we have to take a hit.
56 posted on 03/28/2006 3:41:24 PM PST by American Vet Repairman (Liberalism has killed more Americans than the Taliban)
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To: LibWhacker
We can supplement those targets with countries such as Saudi Arabia – where most of the 9-11 terrorists came from (and that are most likely targeted with the "neutron bomb" designed with such a scenario in mind that kills with enhanced radiation levels but essentially leaves facilities and oil infrastructure intact ...

Didn't Carter sink the neutron bomb?

57 posted on 03/28/2006 3:46:46 PM PST by aculeus (Pinch Sulzberger is the Inspector Clouseau of newspaper publishing.)
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To: LibWhacker

From the way this article reads, makes you almost want one of our cities to get nuked just so we can annihilate Islam. I vote for Detroit to take one for Team America first. </satire>


58 posted on 03/28/2006 3:48:02 PM PST by Frenetic
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To: LibWhacker
"We have awakened a sleeping giant and have instilled in him a terrible resolve".
~Isoruku Yamamoto~

59 posted on 03/28/2006 3:48:08 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush and his surveillance program!)
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To: LibWhacker
"To mistake gentleness for weakness is to underestimate the severity of a Russian winter."
~Leon Uris~
Mila 18

60 posted on 03/28/2006 3:50:44 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush and his surveillance program!)
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