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To: XR7

Not to sound cold hearted, but I believe that the autopsy proved he was right that she was in a vegatative state with no hope of recovery. I know I would not want to be in her condition and would trust my wife to not let me sufer.


11 posted on 03/27/2006 7:04:34 PM PST by hodaka
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To: hodaka

I agree with you and support Michael. Authorities claimed she was blind and couldnt see her parents when they claimed she recognized them.


12 posted on 03/27/2006 7:07:14 PM PST by oilfieldtrash
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To: hodaka
Ever wonder how such a caring man, as you perceive him to be, could be as cruel to her parents as he clearly was?
17 posted on 03/27/2006 7:16:49 PM PST by Nova
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To: hodaka

You know if all I had to go by was the autopsy, I might be inclined to agree with you. But I saw the videos. Not just the video of her mom kissing her, and her face lighting up; and not just the one with the balloon, but the "big eyes" video. That one the media didn't show very much and never the whole thing because it shows without a doubt that Terri could HEAR and react. It was not just twitches and involuntary reflexes. The doctor tells her, "Terri, open your eyes. Can you open your eyes for me?" He repeats it several times, and you can see her struggling to open her eyes. Then finally not only does she turn her face toward the doctor and lean in to him, but she opens her eyes widely. When he says, "That's it" She opens her eyes even wider right in his face and raises her eyebrows. And the doctor laughs, "Good Girl."

Now tell me that was the action of someone who was brain dead. And someone who fights as hard as she did to stay alive, wanted to live. The thing is-- we just do not know enough about the human brain to make such definitive conclusions. There were several doctors that said she may have responded to therapy, but we will never know. Maybe she would have, maybe she wouldn't have. Michael certainly did not give her that option.

I don't believe a word that Michael Schiavo says. The way he has portrayed Bob and Mary Schindler as out for Terri's money is just despicable. They wanted the money that was in trust for her care to be USED FOR HER CARE. He wouldn't even let her teeth be cleaned.

He also said that he had no plans to marry his long-time girlfriend when he was trying to yank Terri's feeding tube, but there he was on "Dateline" with his NEW wife.

He makes me sick.

I have to say that Matt Lauer surprised me a little on this, he wasn't too easy on him. I was expecting a fluff interview, but Matt kind of cornered him on a couple of items and Michael did not like it. He has that look of smugness and contempt that I just want to throw things at the TV when he is on. (Of course, he didn't get the grilling that I would have given him, but what do I expect from the MSM?)

Remarkably, I didn't break anything. God bless the Schindler family and carry them in their continued grief.


22 posted on 03/27/2006 7:26:46 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: hodaka
I know I would not want to be in her condition and would trust my wife to not let me sufer.

And that's what this case is all about isn't it? People projecting their own personal issues onto Terri Shiavo.

Well, I know I would rather not die by dehydration and starvation.

24 posted on 03/27/2006 7:27:55 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hodaka

You believe wrong - the autopsy did not prove she was in "a vegetative state." The M.E. reported that pvs is a clinical observation - one he couldn't observe on a dead person. Terri was dehydrated to death - that makes her autopsy rather subjective as to the shrinkage the dehydration caused to her brain. That's nice that you would not want to be in her condition (you probably mean before her barbaric murder by dehydration); but, that hasn't squiddly to do with what she wanted.


25 posted on 03/27/2006 7:28:04 PM PST by candeee
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To: hodaka
I know I would not want to be in her condition and would trust my wife to not let me sufer.

I agree. But you can't say that here.

27 posted on 03/27/2006 7:30:45 PM PST by Wheee The People
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To: hodaka
Not to sound cold hearted, but I believe that the autopsy proved he was right that she was in a vegatative state with no hope of recovery.

It showed that the cognitive areas of the brain were considerably less damaged than the areas responsible for interfacing with the outside world. Since there was apparent motor function, it would probably have been possible (were it not for Michael's prohibitions) to teach Terri to communicate (whether via blinks or some other method); then SHE could have been asked if she wanted to keep being fed.

The localized brain damage observed in the autopsy is interesting for another reason: it suggests very strongly that Terri's heart stopped because she suffered brain damage, rather than vice versa. The only thing I can think of that would have caused such a thing, outside of physical disruption (e.g. a sleeper hold) would have been a blood clot. While I am all too aware that blood clots can be fatal (late wife), it would seem rather strange that a healthy woman would have such a blood clot sufficient to cause cardiac arrest, but then have the blood clot disappear without a trace and never have any other serious blood clots for many more years.

58 posted on 03/27/2006 8:46:48 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: hodaka

Anyone truly in a vegetative state without hope of recovery wouldn't care if he were in such a condition. I see no reason to subject anyone to a slow, agonizing death by dehydration--what if she weren't in a vegetative state? Also, given that death by dehydration in such a case is cruel and unusual punishment for no crime at all, a court and spouse conspiring to kill such a person should be merciful and make it quick with a bullet to the brain.


118 posted on 03/28/2006 1:49:50 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Manifest Destiny, Chapter 2: Move our southern border further south.)
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To: hodaka

Not to sound cold hearted, but I believe that the autopsy proved he was right that she was in a vegatative state with no hope of recovery. I know I would not want to be in her condition and would trust my wife to not let me sufer.


They said the brain was dead and she was blind. I don't want that life. I know this is a hot button issue for people, but man I hope somebody just blows my head off rather than live like some circus event that went on for months. YUK!!! This post will never be able to convince me to live that way. If you guys want to live like that be my guest.


119 posted on 03/28/2006 1:53:47 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: hodaka
Not to sound cold hearted, but I believe that the autopsy proved he was right that she was in a vegatative state with no hope of recovery. I know I would not want to be in her condition and would trust my wife to not let me sufer.

I agree, and I don't think she'd have wanted those pictures of her in that shape publicized either.

123 posted on 03/28/2006 2:51:58 AM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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