Posted on 03/27/2006 5:46:36 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Edited on 03/27/2006 8:53:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
There is nothing I fear more than a constitutional convention.
An amendment would be ok by me but not a full fledged convention. No telling what would happen to the bill of rights in a convention.
Great, a constitutional convention with the screwed up wizards that we have in politics now would be a disaster of titanic proportions. Bush needs to enforce the law that ALREADY exists but he is unwilling to do.
Securing the borders and enforcing the IRCA of 1986 will get the job done. HR 3347 can make it happen. Sadly, the Senate is being totally unresponsive to American public opinion. Time to turn up the heat.
Disagree. They've both shown themselves to be weak. Otherwise we wouldn't be faced with half-heartedness and saving-face measures on the part of both sides. They haven't even begun to tackle the issue. What they have done is confused it even further.
No.
There is nothing wrong with the existing constitution. There is something wrong with the existing government. Enforce the constitution -- all of it.
No anchor babies. If the parents are not 'subject to the jurisdiction of these United States' their offspring are not entitled to citizenship. Illegal aliens cannot be drafted; legal immigrants can be.
Fence the borders.
Pitchfork Congress.
Just for the record, I voted for Pat in his primary back in '96 (the first primary I could legally vote in as a 19 year old). Then the rest of you voted for Dole of all people who got his a$$ handed to him by Billy Clinton.
oops correction: HR 4437
Well, they did. They're called elections. Also, impeachments, expulsions, etc. I don't think they expected lifetime positions for elected officials.
H.R. 4437
;^)
And Buchanan got his ass handed to him by Dole. Which is worse?
* For the most part, the Commonwealth of Virginia is extremely representative of my interests. The lack of "big cities" goes a long way towards keeping it that way, too.
* Remember: The Senate is composed of people who are elected by ("THE POPULATION OF THE STATE" DIVIDED BY 2). Your chances of unseating Senators are NEXT TO NIL.
I would change the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments and a few other things, given the opportunity.
By amendment, though.
Sorry, I just saw your correction.
What does this do to HR4437? This wasn't HR 4437 was it... >
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That's one of the benefits of living in a state that enacted electoral reforms during the height of the Progressive movement.
People shouldn't be discouraged by the robed tyrants that thwarted the implementation of Prop. 187.
One of the reasons that's its reached this crisis point is because American citizens were disheartened by the fact that their concerns were being flouted.
They sat back and accepted this untenable situation, instead of fighting back.
Part of the reason our resident illegal aliens are so feared is that they and those who hire them and use them for their political purposes are not viewed as individuals but as a large block. Their growing numbers and a perceived cohesion among them gives them undue power over our elected officials.
Perhaps we just need to get as well organized as those who are putting pressure on our governments to leave the borders open. Though most of us do not tend to be the kind who take to the streets, I doubt anything less than the silent majority finding its voice (and finding it in a big way) will have any effect on this issue.
I would like to see one national organization through which we can focus our will and our numbers. We need our own lobby, tens of millions of Americans strong, that is formidable enough to make our representatives fear us more than them. Time is running out and we need to lock arms to get our power back.
No problemo.
Perhaps a Border State Convention should be called to address the issue. Delegates from various states could be appointed to represent their respective states. The agenda would be limited to the issue of illegal immigration: problems and solutions. This might get the discussion going and get the states (ie. the people) moving in the same direction.
You can pitchfork congress, but you also better find someone to secure the borders also. That's the job that Bush won't do and the oval office is where the problem is on this issue
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