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Is it time for a constitutional convention called by the people re: illegal immigration?

Posted on 03/27/2006 5:46:36 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/27/2006 8:53:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: GovernmentShrinker; Willie Green
Stop kidding yourself.

If it were up to corporations and large businesses, the 13th Amendment would be repealed tomorrow.

Slave-labor is the logical extension of the low-wage business these people are after.

These are the philosophical descendents of the same people that ensconced the share-cropping system as part of the South's economy, and presided over the hacienda system even further south.

They are the ones that view migrant farming as an acceptable, even laudable, aspect of American culture.

The idea that eliminating the minimum wage is going to solve this problem is the height of absurdity.

121 posted on 03/27/2006 6:41:30 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: LibertarianInExile

same thoughts here


122 posted on 03/27/2006 6:41:52 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: TWfromTEXAS

I'm not so sure about that.


123 posted on 03/27/2006 6:42:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: ConsentofGoverned

Pick a date. I'll be there for "Hands across the Border"


124 posted on 03/27/2006 6:42:16 PM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Jim Robinson

Beware calling a ConCon.


125 posted on 03/27/2006 6:42:46 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Pukin Dog
All that is required is to end the immunity of officers and directors for hiring illegals, and prison terms for those that do.

End of problem.

126 posted on 03/27/2006 6:43:28 PM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent idea, Jim! There's nothing that strikes abject terror into the hearts of our spineless politicos than the thought of the people organizing for a Constitutional Convention. They are scared spitless of a government "of the people, by the people and for the people" because they have had absolutely no experience with that kind of government and they are pretty sure they would lose some of their royal authority if it were exercized. Let's roll!


127 posted on 03/27/2006 6:43:39 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Pukin Dog
On the first one, you will have due-process issues. On the second one, you will have discrimination problems if you restrict this tax to Hispanics, so everyone will have to suffer for the crimes of a few. On the third one, you have the same issue as the second one. Some judge will toss them out as 'profiling'.

One can carefully enact a law such that it won't deprive the rights of anyone other than the lawbreakers.

For instance, most localities already have statutes on loitering. Craft the legislation such that loitering without possession of a valid State driver's license (which would necessarily be unavailable to illegals) is aggravated trespassing (when in groups larger than a certain number), and set the penalty for violating that law to be jail time.

To keep them from "Getting off lightly," put prisoners back to work in hard, manual labor and put the appeals of these activities beyond the reach of the Judiciary (and, by supposition, from lawyers).

Towards the second one, it isn't enacted as a tax on "Hispanics." Simply follow Georgia's footsteps—If you don't have valid U.S. citizenship, proven by a State birth certificate, a passport, a naturalization card, or (again) a valid State driver's license, an additional 10% tax is levied against any international wire transfer. If that's challenged, then force everyone to suffer the crimes of a few, because I can ASSURE you that illegals are the majority of the customers of the international wire-transfer service.

For the third, there are jurisdictions already considering this. Insulate the process from the courts, and you can protect your State from being accused of "profiling." Every State's legislature has COMPLETE control over its' courts' jurisdiction, no?

128 posted on 03/27/2006 6:43:47 PM PST by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: CowboyJay
In calling for the Convention, each state could in theory give its' delegates a mandate to address only one issue.

True.

However, by its nature a Constitution Convention is not limited to one issue. The opportunity for mischief and the pressure to do so would be enormous despite instructions from the states to their delegates. That is why I proposed a single issue Council of States.

A Council of States by design would have only one issue. If it was being ignored by an unresponsive federal government, with the stroke of a pen it would become a Constitutional Convention the federal government could not ignore under threat of dissolution.

Very treacherous waters we tread here!

129 posted on 03/27/2006 6:44:13 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: Jim Robinson
Roberts, Alito, and hundreds of other federal judgeships. A judge is forever and forever is a long time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...
as if I'll live long enough to see it.
Besides, the nasty little secret behind Dubya's appointments is that they'll all subordinate our Constitution to WTO regulations and agreements.

130 posted on 03/27/2006 6:44:22 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

"what can we do besides hope to gain some benefit by at least registering and tracking these people?"

Fine and imprison employers of illegals, cut off their free welfare, food stamps, and medical care, and they will self deport.


131 posted on 03/27/2006 6:44:31 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Herford Turley; Jim Robinson
Here is a especial bump for you guys.


132 posted on 03/27/2006 6:44:42 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: pissant
I wanted to see President Pete Wilson a decade ago!

Failing that, I'd like to a Republican president who is at least willing to attempt a rollback of the damage inflicted by our current one.

133 posted on 03/27/2006 6:45:18 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Pukin Dog
"To me, the majority is the #1 issue, and if we have to give a little now, to get more in the future, I think we should. A constitutional convention is a great idea, but only when we have a much stronger majority in Congress."

If scamnesty goes through, we'll no longer have the option of waiting it out. Whether the GOP holds a majority or not will be a moot point in less than a decade. The GOP is already infiltrated in the Senate with gun-grabbers and elitists. Scamnesty will install a permanent socialist majority in this country within 10 years. We may not even have that long if 'guest-workers' manage to con their way into suffrage.

134 posted on 03/27/2006 6:45:38 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Betty Jane
Thank you for that - I wonder If groups like the Minutemen and VFW's and of course our FR family, would get behind such an idea, The Minutemen have done it in a limited way, but the marching of illegals by the thousands in our streets means we must do something that cannot be ignored.
135 posted on 03/27/2006 6:45:44 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: harpo11
You're absolutely correct in your assessment of the situation—the Federal government is a train speeding down the tracks with no conductor. They stopped listening to the American public (identified as anyone who lives outside of the Beltway, outside of New York City, and outside of Los Angeles) decades ago.

Perhaps this is the failure of our political system.

136 posted on 03/27/2006 6:46:15 PM PST by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: detsaoT; Jim Robinson

Couldn't the states put armed deputies on the border like Texas did in the early 1900's?

I have often wondered what powers the states possess when the government has abdicated it's responsibility under the constitution.

They can certainly, not provide drivers licenses, tax wire transfers, arrest loiters, fine employers and generally make the life of illegals miserable.


137 posted on 03/27/2006 6:47:18 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Jim Noble

Hear hear! Another excellent idea—we too often focus on the President, yet other than appointments (which, as Jim R. has pointed out, is extremely important), the CONGRESS is the source of power in our Government. Focus on where the problem is, NOT where the symptoms are!


138 posted on 03/27/2006 6:47:33 PM PST by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Pete Wilson had SOME good points. Being conservative wasn't one of them. I can't think of ANY man alive right now I'd rather see as CIC than the current occupant. If I had to choose, I'd take the VP.


139 posted on 03/27/2006 6:47:50 PM PST by pissant
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To: Herford Turley; Jim Robinson
Just heard O'Reilly say that even though over 75% of the American people are opposed to illegal immigration, the Congress is unwilling to do anything about it.

Business as usual in Washington.

140 posted on 03/27/2006 6:47:53 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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