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To: dennisw
Nice people but illegal as hell. They gotta go

Ok, so justify deporting nice people who come here to work and are otherwise not criminals. Justify opposition to a guest worker program that would make these nice workers into taxpayers too.

356 posted on 03/26/2006 8:20:58 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

I will be in favor of legalizing these 25 million (don't believe the low ball lies about them being 10 million!) illegal aliens when the IRS lets me off the hook for the next ten years worth of taxes


357 posted on 03/26/2006 8:27:40 AM PST by dennisw (I like Ike)
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To: staytrue
Ok, so justify deporting nice people who come here to work and are otherwise not criminals.

These "nice people" broke the law to get here and that is a slap in the face to our country, its citizens and to foreigners who are waiting to come here legally.

If these "nice people" are workng here then they are not "otherwise not criminals". They are taking jobs they are not legally entitled to have. In order to work here (illegally) they are either using phony or stolen IDs (which is illegal) or are working for cash (tax evasion).

Justify opposition to a guest worker program that would make these nice workers into taxpayers too.

Turning a blind eye to their illegal behavior and making these "nice workers" into taxpaying guest workers makes a mockery of the law and opens the flood gates to more illegal immigration.

It is my preference that we continue to be a nation of laws. I also expect to see people treated equally under the law and that includes illegal aliens.

361 posted on 03/26/2006 9:32:52 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: staytrue
Ok, so justify deporting nice people who come here to work and are otherwise not criminals. Justify opposition to a guest worker program that would make these nice worers into taxpayers too.

Make them into taxpayers? Among immigrant Mexican and Central American workers in 2004, only 7 percent had a college degree and nearly 60 percent lacked a high school diploma, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Among native-born U.S. workers, 32 percent had a college degree and only 6 percent did not have a high school diploma.

Far from softening the social problems of an aging society, more poor immigrants might aggravate them by pitting older retirees against younger Hispanics for limited government benefits.

We need to import legal educated, skilled workers that are capable of making enough to support themselves without taxpayer-funded assistance and also pay taxes in order for them to stimulate the economy and boost up SS. Taking in illiterates isn't the way (And their children 'educated' here aren't much better - look at the average SAT scores in the LA schools).
366 posted on 03/26/2006 9:56:18 AM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: staytrue
Ok, so justify deporting nice people who come here to work and are otherwise not criminals. Justify opposition to a guest worker program that would make these nice workers into taxpayers too

Sure. They have shown contempt for our laws by coming here illegally. People who have contempt for some laws, will tend to have contempt for others. Because they have avoided the legal immigration process they have not had to do things like 1) learn English b) learn about the history of the USA and our system of government and c) take an oath renouncing their allegience to Mexico. As it turns out these are pretty important things that historically all immigrants have done that have helped us greatly remain "from many, one".

The half million marching with Mexican flags are an afront to real Americans. The signs and speeches show a deep antipathy for the USA. Therefore they should leave, as they are bad for our nation. As for your second point only socialists believe the government needs more and more taxes. With fewer low income, uninsured people we would spend far less. Open immigration and the welfare state do not mix. If the liberals and socialists want open borders then they must agree to eliminate all the freebees, else we go broke.

The border states are in far worse shape than the non-border states. Most illegals do pay some taxes. Sales taxes do not depend on residency. Legalizing them will not suddenly make criminal employers act legitimately. The additional taxes will not offset the huge increase in services for all these poor new citizens, who will be fully entitled. Section 8, WICK, Welfare, Food Stamps, free education, free hospitals, job training, even prisons. All cost money and all are adversely used by the new class of ignorant Mexican immigrants. Mexico has a small middle class, these people are not part of it. Many do not even read Spanish, much less English!

It is an absurd idea that you fix rampant lawbreaking by ignoring or rewarding it, which is what amnesty programs do.

They MUST ALL GO! No other solution will work. If they are the legitimate hard working people they claim to be they can reapply to work, or become citizens from Mexico and be evaluated by us, using our standards. We DO NOT NEED millions and millions of poor, illiterate, angry and socialist-oriented Mexicans in America.

This will end in tragedy, as invasions of this type always have.

Study the history of Rome.

441 posted on 03/26/2006 5:46:35 PM PST by Jack Black
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