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Another Great Article by Pat.
1 posted on 03/25/2006 12:38:36 PM PST by rcocean
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Did you hear Pat lost an uncle at Auschwitz?




He fell out of the guard tower.


2 posted on 03/25/2006 12:39:32 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... (puke)


5 posted on 03/25/2006 12:41:10 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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The anti-American, hate-Bush bandwagon is getting overcrowed these days.

The usual suspects..........

6 posted on 03/25/2006 12:41:35 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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Pro-war liberal Joe Lieberman.
Ahhh...another Jew for Paleo Pat to blame.
9 posted on 03/25/2006 12:45:04 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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That's right Pat, they're losing it. Who was that running mate you chose a few years ago?


10 posted on 03/25/2006 12:45:08 PM PST by bkepley
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There are no neo-cons. They are a made-up category of strawmen. If the neo-cons seem to be disenchanted now, it is that the straw population of the category can do whatever Pat imagines.


11 posted on 03/25/2006 12:46:00 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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The only people besides Pat that I'd like to never hear from again is Bill Kristol and McCain.


12 posted on 03/25/2006 12:46:58 PM PST by Raycpa
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Buchanan's neoisolationist drivel is getting tired. Nothing new in that article. Pat must have wore his forearm out wacking off the day Buckley wrote that statement: "AT LAST, SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!"

The Iraq war is unwinnable? Yeah, for the Jihadists maybe...unless we follow Pat's script and quit. Then we will have handed them a major victory on a silver platter. That strategy worked just great in Beirut and Mogadishu! Good idea Pat!

The cost of failure by pulling out of Iraq would be many times worse than the impact of losing the Vietnam war. Pulling out of Iraq will not make the Islamofascists leave us alone. Their goal is still the re-establishment of the caliphate and imposition of sharia law around the globe. Pulling out of Iraq will only embolden them. And the only way we can lose in Iraq is to quit.

Time for Pat to retire.


14 posted on 03/25/2006 12:48:35 PM PST by LSUfan
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William F. Buckley, whose National Review branded the anti-war right "unpatriotic conservatives" who "hate" America, now calls upon Bush for an "acknowledgement of defeat."

Pot and age.

15 posted on 03/25/2006 12:48:45 PM PST by Mojave
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** It is these policies, not his advisers, that have given us huge deficits, 12 million illegal aliens, a trade deficit running at $800 billion a year and a no-win war that is bleeding our country.
**

Can't deny that!


16 posted on 03/25/2006 12:49:07 PM PST by Sometimes A River (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46031)
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Inside the "Beltway" conservatives versus "butthead conservatives"...

LLS


18 posted on 03/25/2006 12:49:52 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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If Paleo Pat has the answer, then it's a really stupid question.


27 posted on 03/25/2006 12:54:31 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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Bush is in trouble. Conservatives are becoming increasingly upset over his big spending and his failure to secure the border and fight illegal immigration.

I haven't read the articles by the neocons that Buchanan cites. If the neocons are abandoning the war effort, Bush is in dire straights. It is incredibly ironic that some of the sweet little neocons are abandoning the war they so strongly encouraged Bush to pursue.
31 posted on 03/25/2006 12:56:34 PM PST by MBB1984
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Wishful thinking Pat .. and as usual, you're wrong


36 posted on 03/25/2006 12:58:15 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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Buchanan should get a real job, like selling fish, wrapped in columns's he writes that are totally useless to the "real world."


37 posted on 03/25/2006 12:58:31 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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It's gotten to the point where it's safe to conclude that almost any sentence containing the phrase "the neocons" is false and almost anyone who uses that phrase is an idiot.


43 posted on 03/25/2006 1:02:10 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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I agree with Fred Barnes on Press Secretary Scott McClellan though I don't think Rove should go. The White House staff have been guilty of failing in key ways to defend not just our President but the War in Iraq and our soldiers. They underestimated the effect of the relentless never ending attacks from the leftist media. I think it is unfortunate that some on the right have failed to separate their disgust concerning the immigration policy from the what is a successful but not easy situation in Iraq and an economy that is growing at an outstanding rate.

I think that the President by authorizing the release of documents seized in Iraq is a turning point. Bob Kerry is admitting that there clearly was a relationship between Saddam and AlQaeda. This is a substantial break with the Democrat by-line and I think we are going to see a whole lot more of this as things come to the surface. I think the White House needs to go even further. What is at stake is the honor of our soldiers and our country and by allowing gutless terrorist sympathetic liberals to continue unadressed. They are not our friends and countrymen and pretending otherwise is what has gotten the President to the place he is now.


45 posted on 03/25/2006 1:03:21 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Iraq is not a failure. The Media is a failure.)
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I sent this turkey 1k twice. I did not recognize his limitations. Basically, this man hates the Bushes, hates the changes in the Republican Party and hates the idea we didn't make him President. He joined the Independent Party to get 300k and he belongs there

The problem with ideologues is they have one or two ideas they apply to everything. Then when they are proved wrong they just apply the same ideas to everything else.

If Barnes really has taken the positions Buchanan describes then he has the same affliction. When you are President you are President of the United States not some narrow, exclusionary group.

The country is evenly divided on the Iraq War and many other issues. What is described as a Republican collapse is a function of wishful poll taking. The war by any measure is an outstanding success--we have conquered and are in the process of changing to a more democratic regime a nation of 27 million with only minimal losses. To be sure every loss is a 100% loss for the soldier and his family, but tactically the war was well lead, successful and permitted the long term goal of a democratic regime.

The President is doing a great job. No war ever goes to plan, the casualties are declining and sooner or later the Iraqis will cease their impasse and move on to a more or less unified government.

The naysayers used to say tch, tch but now they say cluck, cluck --that is what chickens do when they are huddled in the hen house.

48 posted on 03/25/2006 1:04:38 PM PST by shrinkermd
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The Fred Barnes article was pure folly, Pat Buchanan is right about that. I don't know what got into Buckley, he is flat wrong about Iraq. Perle, Ledeen, Sullivan, Fukuyama -- who cares what they think? But what Buchanan does not understand, or does not admit, is that Iraq is not source for discontent in some who might otherwise be supporters of President Bush.

The cut-and-run crowd hates George W. Bush, and they always will. If Iraq's government turned their country into a shining peaceful oasis in the desert next week, hate-America-firsters who screamed "high price of American empire" would still criticize this President. The current political turmoil for the President is overblown (just wait 'til November); and to whatever extent the political problems are real, they have very little to do with Iraq.

Dubai Ports hurt President Bush. That was an unfair political snafu. Katrina's storm damage in political terms for President Bush is lasting; it has not been (and may never be) repaired. And the President has not, until recently, focused his immigration policy first on securing the border and enforcing existing laws. I'm starting to see that change, thankfully.

Bottom line: President Bush is doing the right thing by ignoring so-called intellectuals, be they neo-cons or paleo-cons. The strategy he laid out in the 2004 campaign and the President's inaugural address is the same as he announced shortly after 9/11/01. This is a long war, and this is no time to declare defeat.


50 posted on 03/25/2006 1:06:28 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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I encourage everyone to rent (Netflix.com has it) or purchase "In the Face of Evil: Reagan's War in Word and Deed."

http://www.inthefaceofevil.com/

Introductory trailer here:

http://vbuttons.com/vbutton.php?clip_id=5588

Pat Buchanan tends to forget or never fully understood the never ending struggle against evil.

"The Beast Never Dies!"


54 posted on 03/25/2006 1:09:21 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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