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Are the neocons losing it? Pat Buchanan
WND ^ | 3-24-2006 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/25/2006 12:38:33 PM PST by rcocean

Are the neocons losing it?

William Kristol of the Weekly Standard now demands the firing of Donald Rumsfeld. William F. Buckley, whose National Review branded the anti-war right "unpatriotic conservatives" who "hate" America, now calls upon Bush for an "acknowledgement of defeat."

But it is a March 20 essay in the Wall Street Journal that suggests the neocons may be coming unhinged. Written by Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes.. calls on Bush to fire press secretary Scott McClellan, chief of staff Andy Card, political adviser Karl Rove, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Treasury Secretary John Snow – and Vice President Richard Cheney.

"The trickiest issue is how to handle Karl Rove," says Barnes.

That Bush is in trouble is undeniable. But his people are not Bush's problem. His policies are. It is these policies, not his advisers, that have given us huge deficits, 12 million illegal aliens, a trade deficit running at $800 billion a year and a no-win war that is bleeding our country.

If Bush should follow Barnes' advice and throw his most loyal people to the wolves as a PR stunt, he will have earned their lasting contempt, and that of the country. For all will know he was scapegoating them for his own failures – failures that come of having listened to the neocons who are even now slipping out of camp, rehearsing alibis and blaming Bush for not heeding their brilliant advi

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To: churchillbuff
...all of whom, if memory serves, have called themselves neo-cons at one time or another.

Did they do so with any sense of irony or defiance?

121 posted on 03/25/2006 8:46:21 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
Did they do so with any sense of irony or defiance?"""

I don't think so. Either Podhoretz or the senior Kristol coined the word -- to describe former Democrats who because Republicans because of defense issues mainly. Neo con meanse "new conservative" -- new type of conservative, basically one who isn't for scaling back the welfare state. That's not my kind of conservative.

122 posted on 03/25/2006 8:48:48 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Petronski

Pat is an American First.

You are the one - on every Buchanan Thread- bringing up Nazi's, German History, Israel, Poland, WW II, the 1930s, and all sorts of things that have nothing to do with the article or the USA Circa 2006.

I have no idea what "Bluton and Blood" is.

Is it Polish ?


123 posted on 03/25/2006 8:49:14 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean
a no-win war that is bleeding our country

That could have been written by Michael Moore.

124 posted on 03/25/2006 8:50:07 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I'm kind of a parasite." Noam Chomsky)
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To: rcocean
I have no idea what "Bluton and Blood" is. Is it Polish ?

My God, the irony!

125 posted on 03/25/2006 8:51:46 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean; Darkwolf377; Howlin
Pat is an American First.

And what is he now?

126 posted on 03/25/2006 8:53:37 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

You keep talking about the "JOOOSSS".

Who are you refering to?


127 posted on 03/25/2006 8:54:41 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Petronski
And what is he now?






Irrelevant.
128 posted on 03/25/2006 8:55:19 PM PST by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: duckln
All I said was Christophobic.

Oh, is that all you said?

LOL

Do you imagine that would mean I fear Christ, or Christians, or Christianity?

I love a really good slur and I hope you'll finish the job. Don't hold back now.

129 posted on 03/25/2006 8:56:00 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean

Feigned ignorance does not become you.


130 posted on 03/25/2006 8:56:37 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: onyx

Irrelevant? Good.

Still visible? Not so good.


131 posted on 03/25/2006 8:58:47 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean

What does Pat do when somebody says something he disagrees with and the AREN'T Jewish? Then what?


132 posted on 03/25/2006 8:59:17 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: churchillbuff
Neo-Cons can into existence in the 1980s. They were former liberal democrats of the "Scoop Jackson" type.

They broke with the Democrats over foreign policy. They disliked the Democrat's isolationism, lack of support for Israel, and weak position on Communism and Defense.

Jean Kirkpatrick was a Neo-con and proud of it.
133 posted on 03/25/2006 9:00:26 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Then what?

I'm not sure, but I suspect he goes back to his lab to continue trying to prove diesel trucks couldn't have been used to gas the enemies of National Socialism.

134 posted on 03/25/2006 9:02:12 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: bkepley
Who was that running mate you chose a few years ago?

ROFL! But...but...she was black though! So Pat can't be a racist right?

135 posted on 03/25/2006 9:02:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Petronski

Quit playing games.

Are you an anti-semite? Why are you always calling Jews, "JOOOS"?


136 posted on 03/25/2006 9:02:35 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Petronski

Back to WW II again. Only 60 years ago.

What the War of the Roses? What was Pats position on that conflict?


137 posted on 03/25/2006 9:03:57 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean

JOOOOOOS is an internet term used to mock anti-Semites who like to blame everything on the Jews. It's meant to be spelled like anti-Semites pronounce the term: in an affected, sinister tone.


138 posted on 03/25/2006 9:05:10 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean
What the War of the Roses? What was Pats position on that conflict?

I have no idea, but if forced to guess, I suspect he blamed it on the Jooooooooooooooos.

139 posted on 03/25/2006 9:06:04 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean

Oh, and I'm not playing games. You are feigning ignorance in your hope that I will either slip up and give you the moral high ground or somehow succumb to your rhetorical prowess (LOL) and become a xenophobic isolationist anti-Zionist.


140 posted on 03/25/2006 9:08:06 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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