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Are the neocons losing it? Pat Buchanan
WND ^ | 3-24-2006 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/25/2006 12:38:33 PM PST by rcocean

Are the neocons losing it?

William Kristol of the Weekly Standard now demands the firing of Donald Rumsfeld. William F. Buckley, whose National Review branded the anti-war right "unpatriotic conservatives" who "hate" America, now calls upon Bush for an "acknowledgement of defeat."

But it is a March 20 essay in the Wall Street Journal that suggests the neocons may be coming unhinged. Written by Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes.. calls on Bush to fire press secretary Scott McClellan, chief of staff Andy Card, political adviser Karl Rove, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Treasury Secretary John Snow – and Vice President Richard Cheney.

"The trickiest issue is how to handle Karl Rove," says Barnes.

That Bush is in trouble is undeniable. But his people are not Bush's problem. His policies are. It is these policies, not his advisers, that have given us huge deficits, 12 million illegal aliens, a trade deficit running at $800 billion a year and a no-win war that is bleeding our country.

If Bush should follow Barnes' advice and throw his most loyal people to the wolves as a PR stunt, he will have earned their lasting contempt, and that of the country. For all will know he was scapegoating them for his own failures – failures that come of having listened to the neocons who are even now slipping out of camp, rehearsing alibis and blaming Bush for not heeding their brilliant advi

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To: rcocean

Who is Pat Buchanan and why is what he wrote being posted?


101 posted on 03/25/2006 2:54:34 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Jibaholic
Wow. Classic conservatives are anti-American.

Pat Buchanan is a classic neofascist reactionary troglodite........

and I used to like the guy.......

he's turned to the dark side of MSNBC just as David Gergin........

102 posted on 03/25/2006 3:39:07 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
You sound like a commie. LOL!

"Fascist", "Reactionary"?

What's a "reactionary", comrade?

Do you think Pat is a an enemy of the Proletariat?
103 posted on 03/25/2006 3:45:33 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean
What's a "reactionary", comrade?

A reactionary is someone who longs for the good old days and can't stand change.....good or bad..

In Russia it's the commies....

As for Pat, it's the isolationist times of the 1930s.

He was once a great speech writer.....but he's past due at the dog track!

Don't question my credentials......just check my comments in detail.

104 posted on 03/25/2006 5:40:15 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: rcocean
Are the neocons losing it?

Whatever "it" is, Pat wishes he had one.

105 posted on 03/25/2006 6:46:35 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 119:1-96)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I'm questioning your odd left-wing language.

Conservatives don't call it each other "reactionaries" or "fascists".

Thats what liberals do.
106 posted on 03/25/2006 6:51:35 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Petronski

107 posted on 03/25/2006 7:08:04 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 119:1-96)
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To: Petronski
Barnes (alias Krystol) writes a stupid article and according to you Pats your biggest problem.

Barnes is toast if he wasn't all along.

Great article by Pat, though I don't fault Bush. Contrary of the venom from MSM, we are in a winning position. The troops won Afghanistan and Iraq, now we have to deal with the enemy within.

108 posted on 03/25/2006 7:17:27 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln

Barnes' article was stupid. Pat's a bigger problem, in part because he takes Barnes so seriously, and in part because he's a friggin' loon with serious joooophobic tendencies and a more severe spasm in his right arm than Dr. Strangelove (that's Doktor Merkwurkdigliebe in the original German).


109 posted on 03/25/2006 7:26:28 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean
Conservatives don't call it each other "reactionaries" or "fascists".

You assume Buchanan is a conservative, rather than a reactionary isolationist xenophobe of the Blut und boden school.

110 posted on 03/25/2006 7:28:23 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rcocean
Great article taking on the neocons.

IMO, and maybe Pat's, is that we have not defined our enemy. Saddam, Kadaffi, ect are short term enemies. Our longer term enemies are Islamists. We should do to Sahr what was done to Saddam. Ditto for Afghanistan.

111 posted on 03/25/2006 7:28:30 PM PST by duckln
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To: Petronski
friggin' loon with serious joooophobic tendencies ..

Look in the mirror, I'd say you're Christophobic. I'm watching Pat right now on John McLaughlin. He and Blankly are the brightest conservatives we have today.

112 posted on 03/25/2006 7:41:07 PM PST by duckln
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To: Beagle8U
**** Why do you hate President Bush ? ( if that is what you meant?)*****

One can state that President Bush was a much better alternative than either Gore or Kerry, and even state that he has done some things rather well while on the whole honestly feeling that he is the worst RINO to ever be elected, has no clue on fiscal frugality and really only differs on tax cuts as opposed to some Dem's. You can think that he was a better choice to restore sanity to the supreme court and national security while also feeling that he spends like a frat boy who's never really had to keep a serious budget.
This leaves those who actually want the Republican party to be BOTH victorious AND true to its conservative roots walking a line between supporting the administration when it is doing what needs to be done and being appropriately horrified when the President goes into 'spend like a drunken sailor' mode, a la post Katrina, or seems to be genuinely deceived WRT to reconquista or the nature of Islamofacisiam. Respectfully
113 posted on 03/25/2006 7:45:50 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: duckln
Look in the mirror, I'd say you're Christophobic.

That would be a tough maneuver, what with my being Roman Catholic and all.

114 posted on 03/25/2006 7:50:44 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

People can say anything on the net. But if it walks or talks like a duck, it's a duck.


115 posted on 03/25/2006 7:53:48 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln

If you actually don't think I'm Roman Catholic, I suggest you read my posting history.

Or ask anyone here.





You're making yourself the fool.


116 posted on 03/25/2006 7:55:15 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: duckln
Better yet, if you don't believe I'm Roman Catholic, and my posting history doesn't convince you, I suggest you ask my fiancée. She has my baptismal certificate, and she will be delivering it to her parish, where she and I will be married in June.
117 posted on 03/25/2006 7:59:40 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
All I said was Christophobic. So you are RC, good.

You have a baseless hate problem. If your chosen hates Pat, then you'll make a bad pair. Hopefully not. Congradulations on your wedding, for lifelong happiness it's the only way to go.

118 posted on 03/25/2006 8:29:12 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln
You have a baseless hate problem.

I don't hate Pat, I laugh at him. And my derision is not baseless. He earns it.

119 posted on 03/25/2006 8:35:35 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RightWhale
There are no neo-cons. They are a made-up category of strawmen. ""

Tell that to Norman Podhoretz, Andrew Sullivan and Irving Kristol, all of whom, if memory serves, have called themselves neo-cons at one time or another.

120 posted on 03/25/2006 8:45:03 PM PST by churchillbuff
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