Posted on 03/24/2006 8:28:46 AM PST by Blogger
Slain Minister's Wife to Be Charged With Murder Friday, March 24, 2006 MEMPHIS, Tenn. — The wife of a Tennessee pastor found shot dead in his house Wednesday will face first-degree murder charges, authorities announced Friday.
Mary Winklerwas found Thursday night with the couple's three daughters in Orange Beach, Ala., about 400 miles south of their home in Selmer.
Investigators with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said she was interviewed during the night and the charges were being prepared.
"We've interviewed her and she was cooperative," said Jennifer Johnson of the TBI, adding that once a warrant with the charges was drawn up, extradition proceedings would begin to have her returned to Tennessee.
Matthew Winkler was found shot to death in the bedroom of his parsonage Wednesday by church members who began searching for him after he failed to show up at an evening event at Selmer's Church of Christ.
Police said there were no signs of forced entry, but Winkler's wife and children — Breanna, 1; Mary Alice, 6; and Patricia, 8 — were gone.
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You know, your failure to use proper puncuation or capitilize reminds me of another well known forum. DU you know which one I'm referring to?
Hubby has always told me that Pepperdine is a c of C school. Though its mission is not the same as Abilene Christian or Harding or Lipscomb, it is still affiliated with the c of C. Here is a link to the Pepperdine University history page. It clearly states that Pepperdine is affiliated with the church of Christ:
http://www.pepperdine.edu/welcome/about/history.htm
God has told us how to become a Christian, and how to be forgiven of our sins after becoming a Christian. It is true that someone can do horrible things and still come back to Christ. They will still face the punishment that is deserved on this earth, including death if that is deemed the proper punishment. If you have a problem with this, then you seem to have a problem with God, not me or anyone else on this board.
My point was that in order to become a Christian, there is more involved than simple belief.
What you said does not change the fact that we must come to Christ and do as He has commanded in order to become a child of God.
beckysue who wrote: "God does not have to pay taxes and the church is the Body of Christ. I don't know of any church that gets taxpayer money."
...what a scam...don't try to justify the fact that churches are freeloading off of non-religious people by not paying property taxes
and you also wrote: "I bet you are a big advocate of so called seperation of church and state, aren't you? But yet you think government ought to be involved enough in the church to collect taxes. You, Sir, are a hypocrite."
...for the government to collect property taxes from everyone including churches is far from hypocritical, the churches are receiving favored tax status at the expense of non-religious people, and again i say stop sponging off of me and pay your own way
"Here is a link to the Pepperdine University history page. It clearly states that Pepperdine is affiliated with the church of Christ:"
Pepperdine University was founded by a member of the CofC and at one time many of the instructurs were members of the CofC. Things have changed. There are certain universities that CofC members like for their children to attend. The Bible programs at those universities were usually in accordance with CofC beliefs. In most cases that is not true anymore, especially at Pepperdine.
The CofC does not support any Universities financially and, to my knowledge, never has. This is not to say that individuals have not contributed money and even left large sums to Universities in their wills.
My daughters attended Abiline Christian and my son attended Freed-Hardeman. However, there were many students at both of these Universities who were no members of the Church of Christ. These days the Boards of Directors, faculty, and student body come from a wide range of different faiths.
Since the Bible says that's what will happen, it will happen. We don't think instrumental music itself is a sin. We just don't have any example of it being used in worship, so we don't use it in worship.
Thanks for that list in #722.
I plan to keep it to show my kids and our youth group. I had wondered about Montgomery Gentry because of their song "My Town" and their mention of the church of Christ.
Hubby says that Grover Cleveland was also c of C. (I think he's the one. I'll doublecheck.)
It wasn't Cleveland. He was Presbyterian from what I can find.
My biggest problem with this list is that it claims that Alexander Campbell founded the church of Christ, which is not the case. The church was founded by Christ.
He is one and calls himself that, which is why I said that.
The Church of Christ if not a cult - unless you call the Bible churches cults.
Do the other churches seek authority for their beliefs from the Bible? Or, do they have creeds of beliefs, do they have positions of power that are determiners of what those beliefs are?
Seems to me, any person should be able to go to the Bible and find out what is required to get to heaven and follow Christ. Which is what the Church of Christ does - they seek authority for their teachings from what is spelled out in the Bible. If not found, they do not teach it.
Which does cause conflict in churches because so many want to add what they "think" should be added. Usually not to please God in worship, but to please themselves as they worship.
I would suggest that you just read the Bible to form your ideas and leave condemning others reading the Bible alone.
Who appointed you judge of all churches?
Are we to put our faith in your ideas to get us to heaven or should we seek what God's instructions are?
I don't think you are able to offer salvation.
There is an International Church of Christ organization that is a cult which is what causes the confusion.
Apparently this group acts as a cult and will even attempt to corrupt regular Churches of Christ by becoming members and fermenting distortion of beliefs.
They are the group that appeared on campuses and became destructive.
clancy,
i never said i was a judge of all churches...read the bible, and practice what you believe all you want, but stop freeloading off of me and other non-religious people by not paying property taxes for your church...and if you read any of my posts you would see that i am referring to ALL churches, not just yours...but you obviously have no problem with the preferred property tax status that churches enjoy since you are on the receiving end
...do you suppose that the mormon church would have $1 billion to invest if they had paid property taxes, and hadn't been FREELOADING off of non-religious people?!...what the hell are they doing investing $1 billion in shopping malls for??
...some excerpts on this issue:
"The LDS Church will invest close to $1 billion when it remakes downtown Salt Lake City's two malls - which will be closed on Sundays - according to Salt Lake City Council members."
"Note: The Mormon Church is more interested in shopping malls and cattle ranches than in helping the poor. By its own admission, the Mormon Church gave $60,000,000 in humanitarian aid last year. It is spending 15 times that for shopping malls.
In Jan. 2006, from the Church PR department, (Deseret News Publishing Company): Edgley said, “that since 1984, the LDS Church has donated nearly $750 million in cash and goods to people in need in more than 150 countries.” That averages to 37.5 million per year or about $3-$4 per Mormon member went to the poor. The total of $750 million in 22 years spent in cash in goods to people in need is only HALF what the church is spending on these malls. Only Half!! The Mormon church is spending less than 1% of its income to help the poor. Is the Mormon church really a charitable organization?"
What the Mormon church does has nothing whatsoever to do with other churches.
And, churches are not taxed for a reason. Go to your representatives to get it changed. Also, you might consider contributing to the churches so that they will fairly have contributions from all people to provide the social services needed during disasters, emergencies.
Why should the church members handle all charity needs that the government with tax money does not handle?
If we pay taxes, then we get government money to pay for social services and to allow the other funds to go for spreading the word of Christ to the world.
Thank you for your reply. We do not use instrument music in our worship service because it is not commanded. Anything the Bible teaches we try to adhear to. If God choses to have an angel blow a trumpet that is fine with me. But he hasn't told me to blow one. There are references to harps being played in heaven. I have no problem with that either. And if God had told me to learn to play a harp here on earth I would be doing my very best to do so.
I find no fault with anything that you have said that the Bible teaches. On those things we are in 100% agreement.
Respectfully,
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