But if God controlled or programmed evolution, then it's design is it not? I just don't see how Theistic Evolution is anything other than design. And if God had nothing to do with evolution, then it isn't theistic.
This is why this debate will always be with us. One side defines science as excluding any consideration of the supernatural, and then proposes an explanation for our existence that excludes the supernatural, while the other side believes there was supernatural involvement in our existence.
It is, but not in the sense that the ID proponents mean.
ID is the belief that certain features of life could not have evolved and required direct supernatural intervention to arrise.
Can you identify for me any everyday phenomenon, in our common experience, for which there exists a supernatural explanation competitive with a natural explanation? Examples of everyday phenomena: sun rising, kids getting earaches, weeds growing in the garden, etc.. Just one example of such a phenomenon where the explanation is plausibly supernatural?
ID is a completely different debate than theistic evolution vs. non-theistic evolution.
ID is really creationism wearing a funny hat.
Seriously.