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To: manwiththehands
Very cynical take comparing McCain-Feingold with the PATRIOT Act, but you're DEAD ON. And ultimately President Bush is responsible for both

Yawn, CFR was going to pass by override of a veto anyway.

Congress actually is the one that proposes legislation and CFR lays in the lap of mccain.

But nice try at Bush bashing.

14 posted on 03/23/2006 8:01:10 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Yawn.

Had Pres. Bush fought this and demanded that the base support killing this unconstitutional legislation, then maybe the noddle-spined Republicans could have made enough noise to get it killed.

Instead, all the noodle-spined Republicans fell into line behind McCain with their tails behind their legs.

Yawn.

And I am NO Bush-basher but one of his diehard supporters.

Yawn.

How can such a critical issue bore you?
34 posted on 03/23/2006 8:35:14 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Dane
Yawn, CFR was going to pass by override of a veto anyway.

Yet by even a futile veto, Bush could have shown us he cares about free speech and full involvement of the people in the political process. As it is he stated support for it in general even during his 2000 election campaign. He would have signed it even if there was no threat of an override.

After signing, he stated several serious constitutional flaws in it that we now complain about. These flaws gave ample reasons for a veto, reasons that the people could have understood, yet he still signed it. He also stated that he would work with Congress to address these constitutional issues, but he has done nothing as far as I know.

Bush even promised to sign an extension of the "assault weapons" ban. You could say he did it because he knew an extension wouldn't pass, but saying he'd veto would have shown us he cares about our right to keep and bear arms. Instead, he chose to pander to the Brady bunch.

But nice try at Bush bashing.

People deserve to be bashed when they do bad things.

35 posted on 03/23/2006 8:37:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Dane
Yawn, CFR was going to pass by override of a veto anyway.

You bots kill me. A) Even if true, President Bush could have avoided complicity in passing a bill that he himself considered unconstitutional. B) It isn't true. The bill could have been defeated if the President had made an effort.

President Bush signed it expecting the courts to overturn the legislation. He gambled and we lost. It was the lowest point of his administration.

37 posted on 03/23/2006 8:41:24 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: All; Dane; manwiththehands
>>>>Yawn, CFR was going to pass by override of a veto anyway.

Wrong again.

The House vote was 240-189, Senate 60-40 to pass McCain Feingold, Roll Call Votes #34 ansd #54 respectively. You need 2/3rds vote in each house of Congress, 290 and 67 respectively, to override a Presidential veto.

41 posted on 03/23/2006 8:51:05 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Dane
Let's see ... if my memory serves me correctly I thought I said that I don't mind the PATRIOT act, but not CFR.

Nice try at Bush-botting, though.

60 posted on 03/23/2006 9:29:43 AM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does. Islam is as Islam allows.)
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