Posted on 03/20/2006 5:31:22 AM PST by Born Conservative
I agree, check post 4.
yup , it appears that their endocrine system[s] took quite a whack ,...
as an interested layman , I listen to my body's ebb and flow daily ,...
I'm always amazed with new info about human physiology
you very obviously know very little about healthcare in the UK. private health companies exist in the UK and very profitable they are too. pretty much any medical procedure carried out by the NHS can be done privately - cancer care, orthopedic work, anti-natal, childbirth, heart surgery - you name it.
if you wish to look a fool then carry on, otherwise read up on your subject before commenting.
the drug was tested for the first time on humans by giving it to healthy adult males. if there were to be side effects probably better to find out what those side effects might be before discovering them in the treatment of a critically ill four year old with lukemia.
That is socialized healthcare...
. . .okay. . .and then what happened? (The swelling went 'down' (?). . .they are permanently disfigured and/or in pain? They now are suffering from some debilitative disease?
What happened post the 'neck swelling'. . .no 'deaths' that they know of. . .sounds like this depends on the meaning of 'death'. . .
. . .surely a consideration not lost on those who manufacture these drugs. . .and with a 'government' watching. . .
. . .and a - 'h e l l o' -
"Drugs like this would make good bio-weapons."
No it would not. Too expensive to make, and delivery requires IV administration, which makes it impractical as a BW.
I need to see pictures.
"I'm confused. Are they testing this drug on people who don't have the conditions for which it's a treatment?"
In phase I trials, drugs are usually tested in healthy volunteers (except in oncology, where they are usually tested in patients).
Very informative - thanks!
Correction- it was an American CRO (contract research organization) doing the testing for a German biotechnology company. It is the German company that as the sponsor that has the ultimate responsibility (and liability).
Their immune system, not endorcine sytem, took a whack.
Check post 28.
I think you totally misread that.
I took it as denigrading to the study, not the patients.
Stating that the study/Drs is treating them like guinea pigs.
Impying that is shorter than:
"There was some progress in the condition of the other very ill humans, which these researchers treated like guinea pigs, yesterday with three of them being taken off life support machines."
It all depends on how the chemical can be broken down and absorbed by a person. We don't know if the chemical can be absorbed by the skin or lungs, or ingested in the stomach. To many unknown factors.
But we now know what happens if you turn a person's immune system on full blast.
It's an antibody to CD28, Paul. We know how it can be absorbed - only IV, not oral or inhalation. Lousy BW.
That is nice to know.
HA! That was so damn wrong...
Thanks for the explanation. I need to brush up on my immunology.
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