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Black Republican Candidates for the United States Senate
NationalLedger.com ^ | March 17, 2006 | Paul Weyrich

Posted on 03/18/2006 5:47:11 AM PST by BillyDee53

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To: BillyDee53
Its amazing. We've got great candidates and we want them to lose because we think we can't win. If the party pulls the rug out from under them, I will stay home in November. That will be a teacheable moment to a clueless GOP establishment on not doing everything it can to elect conservatives to public office.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

21 posted on 03/18/2006 9:18:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: cripplecreek

"It's not blacks they're sabotaging, it's conservatives. "

They want Hispanics, not Blacks. Hispanics will be the bigger voting base.


22 posted on 03/18/2006 9:20:19 AM PST by B4Ranch (The truth is good for you, like sunlight, but too much all at once can really hurt.)
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To: BlackElk

I completely concur with your entire post , and as you said , we should give directly to the Senate candidates so Libby the Liberal can't control the money flow . She's quite the anti-conservative saboteur and she needs to step down from the NRSC now .


23 posted on 03/18/2006 9:24:53 AM PST by FRONTLINER ( Out with the RINO's , Defeat Mike DeWhine in the primary ! Libby THE LIBERAL Dole is inept !)
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To: BlackElk

The tragedy continues.

To the leadership of the GOP, conservatives belong on the back of the bus.

It's been going on for some time now.


24 posted on 03/18/2006 4:02:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("After all I've done for you people!!!" -John McCain)
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To: chicagolady

My husband and I are Butler supporters, and were furious when Michael Bouchard decided he was going to run after all in spite of "health issues." Butler is our best bet to oust Debbie "Desperately Incompetent" Stabenow, but the RINO's here in our state would rather run one of their own.

I wish DeVos would distinguish himself by endorsing Butler.


25 posted on 03/18/2006 4:08:06 PM PST by Kieri (Midwestern Snark Claw and Feather Club Member)
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To: EternalVigilance
Conservatives are to the Republicans what blacks are to the Democrats.

Whine about it all you want. Deny it if it makes you feel better.

26 posted on 03/18/2006 5:22:23 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: BillyDee53

Don't change the headline from that at the source. So far, you only post articles and don't reply. You will lose that privilege next time you switch the headline to one of your choosing.

I hope I'm being blunt enough.


27 posted on 03/18/2006 5:39:52 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Not sure what your point is.


28 posted on 03/18/2006 6:11:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("After all I've done for you people!!!" -John McCain)
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To: BillyDee53
elected as a conservative Republican

I suspect it had more to do with ideology rather than ethnicity. The RINOs will do anything they can to keep conservatives from getting elected.

29 posted on 03/18/2006 6:15:36 PM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: BlackElk
One the colossal screwups is when the Republican senators narrowly selected Liddy over Norm Coleman as NRSC. Coleman left the RAT party because they wouldn't tolerant his socially conservative views and won in a RAT state against a former vice President and Senator -- he knows what it takes to run a compentative campaign. Liddy, on the other hand, only became a "Republican" when she married Bob and got elected to a "safe" Republican seat held by retiring Jesse Helms.

Liddy has been completely medoicre as NRSC. She's failed to recruited any big name candidates, gotten beside several horrible embarrassments (Jeanine Pirro, etc.), and is undermining good conservatives who won in liberal areas like Mayor John Spencer, Mayor Steve Laffey, and Alderman Rev. Keith Bulter.

The only good that can come of this is if the GOP loses seats, they won't have her around to "lead" any Republican organization next time.

30 posted on 03/18/2006 7:59:58 PM PST by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the liberal Democrat's FAVORITE Republican in IL ... www.nopinka.com)
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To: BlackElk
Weyrich doesn't know what he is talking about. You seem to accept his accusations at face value without knowing "the rest of the story." It is easy to blame Liddy Dole and the "Washington establishment" for what he perceives to be a lack of support for black Rep candidates. An example of Weyrich's faulty reasoning:

Steele is thought to have one shot at the Senate from this deep Blue State, if former Congressman Kweisi Mfume were the Democratic nominee. That would pit one Black candidate against another and would allow Steele to split the Black vote. If, as expected, Steele must run against Representative Benjamin L. Cardin (D-MD) it would be all uphill for Steele.

Weyrich seems to be under the illusion that just by nominating a black Republican, he will garner half the black vote. Blacks don't vote on the basis of race, they vote on the basis of party. There have been black Rep candidates running against white Dems and they have not gained any larger share of the black vote than a white Republican.

Should Republicans turn the situation around to create a more level playing field these candidates could be judged on their own. It remains to be seen if Republicans at the grassroots level are ready for Black Republicans to be elected. I’m not sure they are.

Weyrich is all wet. It seems as though he wants some sort of affirmative action program for black Republicans. In point of fact, black Republicans have been accepted and supported based on their abilities not their color. Pulling the race card to explain party politics doesn't work.

The real question is why do Blacks vote over 90% for one party and castigate anyone who does not go along with the group think. Why are Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Michael Steele, etc. called Uncle Toms and oreos.

Who runs for the Senate in Michigan is nunoherbidness as long as they do not embarass the nati9nal GOP. DC establishment DOES NOT KNOW BEST! See #9

That's a rather naive observation. The national party does get involved in state politics and provides funds to support the party's nominees. Liddy Dole and the Washington Rep estabishment actively seek out candidates who are capable of winning. They will lobby potential candidates and urge them to run for office, e.g., John Thune. It has nothing to do with embarassing the party, but it is about winning. The Dems do the same thing, e.g., they ditched the Iraqi war vet/2004 congressional candiate in the upcoming Ohio Senate race for party hack Sherrod Brown. State and local republican parties are not totally free agents accountable to no one. They are part of the national party hierarchy. You seem to admit as much when you mention "as long as they do not embarass the national GOP," which is a subjective judgment made by someone.

31 posted on 03/18/2006 9:19:16 PM PST by kabar
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To: BlackElk

Liddy Dole had an ACU rating of 92 in 2004 (the same as George Allen) and a lifetime rating of 86, the same as Bob Bennett of Utah. In 2004, the only member of the NC Rep Congressional delegation with a higher rating was Sue Myrick. Liddy Dole had the second highest. We need more RINOs like her.


32 posted on 03/18/2006 9:29:15 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar; sittnick; ninenot; fieldmarshaldj; ElkGroveDan; EternalVigilance; onyx; BillyBoy
Let's see. Paul Weyrich's track record and personal life and ideology and lifetime achievement for movement conservatism vs. Giddy Dole's lifetime record on each of the above. NO BRAINER. Take Weyrich.

Giddy's voting record is purely a matter of North Carolina and her need not to appear to be the spineless "moderate" that she is. If she strays, she loses. Plain and simple. That having been established so that she can stick around wasting a North Carolina Senate seat once held by Jesse Helms and promoting other spineless candidacies posing as Republicans such as LAMAR!!!!! of Goals 2000 and of Tennessee. We need Marsha Blackburn there. But, no, Marsha would be far too Republican for Muffy and Skipper down at the polo club.

How much of the black vote will be obtained by nominating Wellington Whitebread of the Mayflower Whitebreads for the US Senate???? Vote for Whitebread: He will do what your boss tells him to do. Besides, Muffy and Skipper, he is ONE OF US!!!!! Giddy will help. She is one of us too!!!!!

Biography is history. Michael Steele may be the single BEST GOP Senate candidate of 2006. Keith Butler might be another but Giddy has never heard of him and, ohhhh, it is sooooooo confising for her to consider all these, what do they call them "ethnic groups", I think they call them. Why can't Wellington Whitebread run in Michigan?

To get minority voters' support, you MUST ask them for it. They are just like everyone else in that respect. Republicans like Giddy are allergic to asking. Do you remember Jesse Helms' tightest race against a white libDem governor (Jim Hunt) who had been governor several times. Jesse Helms, yes that Jesse Helms, went to the rural black churches, reminded them that they disagreed with him on a LOT of issues but that opposition to abortion was one issue where they and he agreed and "you won't have to call Jesse Helms' office hoping to convince me to be against abortion." As Jesse explained afterwards, the church buses "rolled" for Jesse on election day and he beat Hunt in an upset. Try and imagine Giddy going to the black churches for votes in times of crisis. Laugh, I thought I'd die.

ANYONE in the National Republican Senate Campaign Committee who supports local spineless "moderates" over electable red meat conservatives is a stooge for the liberals and needs to be fired. That starts with Giddy Dole. That's the objective truth and not a "subjective opinion."

Are you in favor of the GOP emulating Schmuckie Chewmer in other respects like his voting record, his morals in pres9iding over the crime of tapping Steele's credit record and presiding over the staff that puboished same on the internet???? Do you want GOP Senate candidates who run around screaming "ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!" like Howard Dean? Or am I being subjective again?

When David Duke won a Louisiana GOP governor's race, it was time for Bush the Elder to intervene and say: Not in the name of my party!!! Also: even the liberalDems had that one right when they produced bumper stickers favoring their long-time enemy Edwin Edwards: "Vote for the Crook! It's THAT IMPORTANT!" Laissez bon temps roullez!

As to acceptance of black candidates on their capabilities: Does the name Herman Cain ring a bell?????

Do you need the likes of Giddy Dole to decide where to put your money in political campaigns????? If so, send it to her. Conservatives should direct their own contributions without Giddy's involvement.

Did I miss your response to the fact that Giddy and Taxboob are regulars at the ultra-left Foundry Methodist Church also attended by Mr. and Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist as to whom, the pastor is even further left????? Does that say anything to you???? I am not suggesting that Giddy and Taxboob are ultraleftists, just airheads who don't know any better and don't know a Red Church when they attend one. Lest there be misunderstanding: I am referencing this one congregation and NOT the entire Methodist Church which has many exemplary Christians.

I know the "rest of the story." Do you???? Apparently not.

Split any significant portion of the black vote off the Demonrats (25% or so) and they are dead meat.

Also, I had never imagined John Thune as a product of Giddy Dole rather than of South Dakota. She promised to keep out of his way and provide better finance than when he lost two years earlier. His first Senate election was stolen from him by fraudulent absentee ballot schemes on the Lakota reservations but the spineless on the committee (this would also mean George Allen, no???) did NOTHING. Not very ladylike, you know. Its just NOT DONE in her social set! After all, what is a Senate seat compared to one's dignity down at the polo club? We need voter integrity projects coordinated with Justice Department prosecutors a lot more than we need the opinion of windtunnel Giddy and her NRSCC psychophants as to who should be the GOP candidate for Senate in South Dakota, Michigan or anywhere else.

33 posted on 03/19/2006 8:05:22 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk; kabar
Have to agree on BlackElk on this one.

Hey, I was a big fan of Liddy back in 1996 when I had no idea where she stood and only saw her as Bob Dole's more charismatic wife on the campaign trail. Then in 2000 she ran in her own right and said she supported more gun laws and abortion was a "difficult issue to agree on". She sure didn't last long in that race. Suddenly ultra-conservative Jesse Helms Senate seat opens up, and Liddy flies in from Kansas to a state where she hasn't lived for 30 years, and reinvents herself as a conservative.

Right now we have Lincoln Chafee priasing Feingold's censures resolution and Liddy is openly trying to shove him down our throats in the primary. That tells me all I need to know about where Liddy stands.

34 posted on 03/19/2006 10:49:53 AM PST by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the liberal Democrat's FAVORITE Republican in IL ... www.nopinka.com)
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