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Oldest light shows universe grew fast, researchers say [inflationary cosmology gets a big boost]
Houston Chronicle (www.chron.com) ^ | March 17, 2006 | Dennis O'Brien

Posted on 03/17/2006 3:46:30 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

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...from the size of a marble to larger than the currently observable universe in a trillionth of a trillionth of a second.

Enough said.

1 posted on 03/17/2006 3:46:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow; grey_whiskers; headsonpikes; Junior; PatrickHenry; Iris7

Ping


2 posted on 03/17/2006 3:47:34 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

God's work is truly amazing. Of course one must understand that his "timepiece" is quite different from ours.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 3:50:03 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: All
Dennis Overbye's take in the New York Times:

Astronomers Find the Earliest Signs Yet of a Violent Baby Universe

4 posted on 03/17/2006 3:51:36 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored; All
What would you call the place where the marble-sized universe was located? What were its physical properties? Do we say that an infinitely large space containing nothing, a total vacuum, was then and has since been filled by a universe of objects ranging from galaxies to sub-atomic particles?

Would you want to stand next to the marble-sized universe, if you could be assured of escaping to a safe distance before detonation?

5 posted on 03/17/2006 3:54:01 AM PST by ExGeeEye (All Hail the Great Folger, creator of hot brown goodness.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Thanks, but there's already a thread on this topic (although not this specific title). I'll pass on this one: Evidence for Universe Expansion Found.
6 posted on 03/17/2006 3:56:02 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: ExGeeEye
Good questions. I think we're still trying to find the answers.

But as for your last question, there's no escaping the birth expansion of a cosmos! If you're anywhere nearby when it starts, you'll be gone in a trillionth of a second or less.

7 posted on 03/17/2006 3:57:44 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: PatrickHenry

Should've known you were up a little earlier...didn't see your thread. Sorry...


8 posted on 03/17/2006 3:58:41 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: ExGeeEye

String theory would seem to suggest that our universe can be imagined as one of many, like bubbles in a froth, and as each expands (or contracts) it 'merely' inflates or conflates the froth. In that manner of envisioning the universe, there's nothing 'next' to the universe within our timespace; you cannot travel to the 'edge' of the universe because there is no edge, except as a purely abstract mental construct.


9 posted on 03/17/2006 4:01:32 AM PST by AntiGuv
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...from the size of a marble to larger than the currently observable universe in a trillionth of a trillionth of a second.

Source please? Thanks.

10 posted on 03/17/2006 4:02:54 AM PST by ordinaryguy
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To: ordinaryguy
Source please? Thanks.

Ah, found it in the next article.

11 posted on 03/17/2006 4:04:37 AM PST by ordinaryguy
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To: FerdieMurphy

But I thought the earth and Universe were only 6,000 years old?


12 posted on 03/17/2006 4:06:01 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: ordinaryguy
First paragraph:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060317/NEWS07/603170441/1009

Most of the other stories I've seen say "less than a trillionth of a second". Some clarity on this is probably desirable.

13 posted on 03/17/2006 4:06:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

The Earth and the Universe came into existence last Thursday. They merely had the appearance of age built in.


14 posted on 03/17/2006 4:08:45 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: snarks_when_bored

My feeble understanding of science, is that you can't make something out of nothing. How can you take mass the size of a marble and generate the relative mass of the universe, much less our solar system, or even my back yard, without adding something along the line?


15 posted on 03/17/2006 4:10:23 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: AntiGuv

Well could you ask the guy who built it why he made me late on for an important meeting last Wednesday? I don't think that was necessary.


16 posted on 03/17/2006 4:12:51 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: FerdieMurphy

It's not his timepiece that is different, it's his point of view. Our timepiece is the one out of sync when it comes to viewing the past. And it's because there is much we do not and likely cannot ever know. Scientists are like latecomers to the OJ case. When all they have is a picture of Mark Fuhrman and a few facts about the murder, they conclude Fuhrman must have done it - just look at the evidence....
They get scraps of metal shavings and want to make a skyscraper of it - thinking themselves intelligent and wise.


17 posted on 03/17/2006 4:13:28 AM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: pageonetoo

"My feeble understanding of science, is that you can't make something out of nothing. How can you take mass the size of a marble and generate the relative mass of the universe, much less our solar system, or even my back yard, without adding something along the line?"

Ask God.


18 posted on 03/17/2006 4:14:27 AM PST by Rock N Jones
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To: snarks_when_bored

Someone ping me when we have answers to questions such as: Where did the marble-size universe come from? If the Big Bang happened at time X, what was there before time X? Seems to me any Theory of Everything must explain how space-time started and what existed (if that's the right word) before it started (if that concept means anything).


19 posted on 03/17/2006 4:14:29 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (Visit the Iran Crater in 2008)
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To: pageonetoo

Well, part of the answer is that spacetime (or timespace) was compressed into the marble, and just 'stretched out' to a universal scale. Now, of course it's rather hard (impossible) to imagine the entire universe compressed to the size of a marble, but that's because all our experience is of the stretched-out universe as it is today, and the hyperextreme conditions in the compressed universe are unvisualizable.


20 posted on 03/17/2006 4:14:30 AM PST by AntiGuv
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