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To: TomasUSMC

Based on your usage of "divide and conquer" in your reply it occurs to me that you may have no idea what I mean by "divide and conquer" as difficult as that is for me to believe. Forgive me for assuming that everyone understands what I'm referring to when I say "divide and conquer." Although I am a rocket scientist, it certainly doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the heritage of this term or it's application in the current situation with regard to the War on Islam/WOT.

The heritage of the "divide and conquer" phrase is somewhat in dispute, but it is most often attributed to Julius Caesar who used the strategy in his conquest of Gaul (now France) in the first century BC. The Celtic tribes of Gaul were loosely configured and Caesar enlisted one tribe against another and dug in his own Roman army while they savaged one another. Eventually, his Roman army fought the surviving tribes and gained the upper hand as Gaul became part of the Roman Empire.

In the present situation, the president has appealed to moderate Muslim nations such as Pakistan in a war against those nations controlled by radical Muslims such as Afghanistan and Iraq with some success. Is a nation such as Pakistan a perfect ally? Certainly not. There are many radicals within Pakistan, any of whom would gladly slit either of our throats without a second thought. However, it's leader, Mushareff has been paid well and has marshalled his resources to assist the US-lead coalition against Al Qaeda and other terrorists in the region.

Even though Julius Caesar was able to enlist some Celtic tribes, he eventually ended up fighting those same tribes or others who had in turn defeated those tribes he had used previously. The point is that he was adeptly able to get his bidding done by others before expending his own energies and his own army.

For purposes of my explanation, a moderate Muslim is any Muslim who will 1) take up arms, 2) command other Muslims to take up arms or 3) provide material support to serve our purposes.

The president understands this. He is trying to preserve American lives, much as Julius Caesar was preserving the lives of his soldiers prior to committing them to battle.

The UAE has provided material support for our military endeavors in the region and has thus acted as a moderate Muslim nation in my definition. Even Caesar paid those who fought for him whether they were part of his army or were merely mercenaries. The Bush administration was attempting to reward a moderate Muslim nation in the region for its efforts in decades long War on Islam.

In my estimation and that of many others much more knowledgeable than me, the security risk of having DWP operate a few piers in this country was manageable. The US Coast Guard and Customs Service are in control of security. This was purely a business deal. Why would anyone with terrorist motives spend $7B to carry out an attack when the combined efforts of the 9/11 terrorists were probably accomplished with much less than $1M?

I understand your concern about the growing threat, but I certainly don't believe we have exhausted efforts to westernize the vast majority of Muslims that just want to live their lives regardless of what their religion preaches or who governs them. Well over 99% are not jihadists now and never will be. Now that we have a foothold in the mideast in Iraq, their society has been opened to western influence and I'm prayerful that such a presence can ultimately be exploited for His glory.

BTW, thank you for your service to our nation and Semper Fi (my younger brothers are both Marines).


13 posted on 03/15/2006 11:31:22 PM PST by Rockitz (Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

"t is most often attributed to Julius Caesar who used the strategy in his conquest of Gaul"

I find several places in which your analogy to Julius Caesar and his strategy in Gaul breaks down:

1. The Celtic tribes of Gual did not outnumber the Romans 3 or 4 to 1

2. Rome itself was never under threat of Gaul

3. Rome controlled vast sums of wealth from which to sustain a large army on foreign soil

4. Divide and conquer may be a decent temporary tactic for us but not a winning tactic like it was for Caesar due to the fact that it is a strategy that takes a long period of time... which growing nuclear threat makes untenable


15 posted on 03/16/2006 12:09:55 AM PST by stand4somethin
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To: Rockitz
Well over 99% are not jihadists now and never will be. Now that we have a foothold in the mideast in Iraq, their society has been opened to western influence and I'm prayerful that such a presence can ultimately be exploited for His glory.


The problem as I see it is not what percent of muslims want to be Jihadists, its what percentage want to be good muslims. In the recent elections in Iraq, close to 60 percent supported the Sharia Law advocating political faction. They also have elected a former Anti-American Pro- Iranian Terrorist as Iraqi PM for the second straight time.

The Iraq people have decided that Islam will be the state religion and that "NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM".

AND this is after we have been there, standing literally on the "Arab Street" defending them from each other, with hundreds of Billions and thousands of our best young men and women killed and wounded, since 2003.

No I think the big winner in our present strategy is Iran.

I can tell you are a student of history. Well at least in the old days, the Persians had to pay the Western mercenaries...[AT LEAST THE GREEKS GOT PAID]. I submit to you that today, we are winning battles for the Persian and we are footing the bill.

God Bless your two brave brothers....Semper Fi.
37 posted on 03/16/2006 10:48:57 AM PST by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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