[AlexW]

"all I said he is a master politician"

To be a "master politician" you have to get people to like you, even when you do things that they do not like.
McPain does many things that no one likes, and he is still
disliked by most Republicans.

[spikeytx86]

That's true, a lot of republicans don't like him, but he is liked by almost all centrists and independents and they outnumber us. His Achilles hill is the fact that he goes out of his way to please everyone (except his party) and this has lead to his alienation of his party in which will prevent him getting our nomination.

Clinton was a master politician as well, and we all know how good he was. The last thing we need is another politician in office especially one good at it. We need a outsider IMHO.