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LOL! I didn't address it because it was senseless and irrelevant. There is no way to defend, nor debate whether or not anyone would think any particular way with a crazy leftist in the White House, because having a crazy leftist in the White House changes everything, and it had absolutely nothing to do with anything I said, anyway.

It was a VACUUOUS argument. Deal with it.

Now, since you can't seem to stay on topic, you may continue to pat yourself on the back for changing the subject, failing in your lame diversionary tactic, and thus losing the debate.

There IS racism involved, and it IS dangerous, and should not be ignored. That is the bottom line.........all your zigzagging and insulting me personally (when I had opened a civil debate) changes nothing in the substance of what I said.

btw, I just saw your very 'argument' on another thread. Can't you fellows come up with something original?

(Silly question.........you run in herds).

all your zigzagging and insulting me personally (when I had opened a civil debate)

Is that supposed to be a joke? Your initial post to me, and my initial reply to you were both civil. Then, unhappy with my reply you started letting the insults fly. Anybody can go up in the thread and see that, so I don't see the point in lying about it. As for your assertion that this forum is filled with people who want to "kill all the arabs", I don't see any of them either. As much as you would like to rely on the race card to cut short the debate, there simply is no justification for it.

Ohio - we're seeing a deep confusion over what's right and wrong, over what we're fighting for and against.

The human species is deadly lot. Fanatics through history have been the source of immense cruelty, death and destruction. The religion of Islam has had more than its share of such, for over 13 centuries now, with unceasing Jihad against us heathens. The fanatics of western civilization, such as communists and Nazis, have been doing their best over the last century or two to catch up however.

The useful idiots in the press, the media, the university and political office have continued to confuse matters no end. This confusion has dealt a grave blow to W's efforts from 9/11 and before. Islam has been raging jihad against us for decades now in this latest round, fueled by oil money, and we have yet to stand up to it with the national clarity such as Churchill displayed against Hitler, or Reagan against the Soviet Union.

At least Bush is standing up, but he still calls Islam the religion of peace. The media and press still go out of their way to downplay continued acts of violence against America, on our own soil and abroad, while exaggerating the violence and disregarding the motivation for any acts of war America commits in response.

Great wars are not won until great clarity of purpose is found.

We aren't there yet.

I feel like I am reading a great novel, and I'm in but the early Chapters. For some strange reason, I cannot skip ahead and see how it comes out. I can only keep reading, and doing my part, for we are each small characters in this story. But I know that many more chapters remain. I can feel the heft of this story in my hands. No doubt I will be deceased before the final chapter. May my descendents live in freedom as I have.