Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze
"You think they would have gotten a clue when the Dems are against the port deal."
Dems like Carter and Clinton were *for* it! There is a one party establishment that croses partisan lines, and Bush is a part of it. No thanks!
"Good! Maybe it'll wake up all these Smoot Harley idiots."
How about we let the Arabs run the Pentagon, while we're at it? We can't be protectionist.
"Ah, the joys of protectionism!"
Protectionism? I am not aware of Congress banning trade with the UAE. Let the Arabs sell oil and buy planes if they agree.
But operating national infrastructure - the means with which business can be done - is a different thing. Operating ports is not trade.
OK but I never claimed there was such a concept within Islam.
Neither is there concept of nationalism in Communism, Capitalism or Christianity. Nationalism is a new concept in human thought. Mankind being organized in Kingdoms, Empires, Commonwealths, etc until less than five hundred years ago. So that is a moot point. Catholics owed more alligance to Rome than their political sovereigns until a few centuries ago and Americans believed the Pope would control a Catholic president until fifty years ago.
Theoretically Christians and Moslems both own primary fealty to their God and his religious authority. We both know theory only goes so far.
The real point is that Islam came upon entities which predated it such as Eygpt and Persia. those are still organized politically as nations and most of their citizens show alligance to the nations. The states will certainly prosecute you in the name of the nation state and speak on the world stage as such.
The prime problem we are dealing with is the small percentage of those Moslems which are faithful to the original ethic of War and Terror which motivated Mo and the Boys, Khalid, Omar, Abu. The current crop appears to be more motivated by sheer reiligous concerns than the first attackers too.
This is why the destruction of this port deal is so bad for US interests. The only hope of avoiding a cataclysmic escalation of the war between the West and Islam itself is to split off those rational enough to understand that the latter Cannot win and must reform. The Emirates have that recognition and must be rewarded for their absolutely CRUCLE assistance to our military. (It is inconceivable that 77 thousand visited there last year with NO terrorist occurances.)
Those who refuse to recognize that Moslems throughout that region are fighting and dying alongside our Military I will call bigots and worse. They are lining up in the freaking streets in Iraq knowing that there is a GREAT probility that a lunatic in a car will blow them UP. Enlisting knowing this endangers their families; speaking in support of the US knowing they could literally lose their heads.
Musharef has had multiple assassination attempts against him by Mad Mo's boys; generals in Iraq are killed, mayors shot, Emirs killed. They are realizing that any of them are subject to death from this shadowy group and they are protected by the US.
You will find NO one on this site more disdainful of the Islamic lunacy but we are dealing with more than that. We are dealing with people.
But most important is the FACT that the campaign against the UAE has been based entirely upon LIES.
Ironic and fascinating one must admit. Reminds of those great episodes and debates throughout history wherein absolute lunacy swepts things away. The Children's Crusade comes to mind.
Nope National interest is entirely behind this deal. There is nothing but LIES supporting the opposition.
Darn .. I'm in Chicago .. I think I've got my times messed up. I so hope I didn't miss it .. it's 10 pm here.
Britt is on at 11 here .
Oh .. good, and thanks ;).
Savage must be very pleased with himself these days....along with Hillary, the DNC, RINOS, the buchananites, and the chicken littles among us. It's been similar to watching the stampedes at the European soccer matches....knuckledraggers who don't realize how very important the Dubai port and it's geographical position is to the USA. They should be airing up their bike tires.
About 40 percent of the world’s crude oil shipments pass through the two-mile wide channel of the Persian Gulf’s strategic Straits of Hormuz.
Yet these same clowns will be the first to scream that we need to do something about Iran without blessing us with their incredible geo-political insights as to how to accomplish that while at the same time insulting the very party necessary to accomplish their demands.
"I think I will shoot the quarterback then demand we win the Super Bowl"
Good analogy.
Arabs have a very serious thing about "losing face", like it or not, agree with it or not.
I fear we have just lost a very major WOT battle.
I suppose so, but it's depressing nonetheless.
Watch Brit's show right now .........listen word to word to what James Carafona says.
"I hope the people on this forum who chose deliberately not to educate themselves about the issues are proud of themselves. Because I'm disgusted with them."
Same here. I did get educated on this matter before sounding off. I am really worried about loss of intelligence cooperation in the GWOT.
There are American blacks, whose ancestors probably came to America long before your ancestors did, who are Muslims.
There are whites, such as Jihad Johnny from California, who are Muslims.
Both of these groups are AMERICANS, but most assuredly NOT ARAB in any way, shape, manner, or form!
There are Americans of Arab background, living in America or born here, who are CHRISTIANS!
Muslim and Arab are NOT synonyms!
Words have set definitions and when you deviate from them, it is YOU who lose the debate immediately; not to mention look foolish and stupid.
Oh and By the way, I know a woman who was born in Egypt, but who has been an American citizen for longer than you've been alive. She is a Muslim, but is a VERY patriotic American and I bet that she isn't the only one. She is NOT an Arab, but she IS a better CONSERVATIVE than YOU are; so put that in your pipe and smoke it. :-)
I saw it this afternoon.
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