Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)

The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

[monday]

"But what if we could really help one of them to change?"

because we can't change their religion, and their religion forbids them from changing.

[SunStar]

Yes, it is a "bribe" to let them spend their money... sure, okay.

If it's just "letting them spend their money", then why the big, blustery response from them? They could easily buy up any number of American interests other than the ports and make plenty of money.

It's just when it comes to American oil companies like Unocal, or operation of ports, Americans get a little testy about foreign countries buying their way in.

[nicmarlo]

Lucky for him he just had patriotic Americans willing to die fighting the enemy.

[TigersEye]

There's those lies again.

[Howlin]

I reiterate, folks.... you can NOT make some of these people up. :D

Posted by a man who uses an animated gif in every single post.

Is that internet equivalent of having a really big car or big stereo speakers?

[onyx]

He/she likely has another screen name for his/her home computer...lol... " _ _ _ _, _ _, _ _ _ _ " 3 words.

[cva66snipe]

You know it seems to me the Cole was hit, pretty much amidships, maybe just forward of amidships at pretty much the widest point on the ship. Personally if I wanted to disable her I'd have gone after the screws, or if trying to kill folks farther forward closer to berthing. Where they hit looks like it was near the forward engine room. You still engine room number 2 and one screw so still in service. I bet any of that information you are referring to is probably available from Janes's. Finally even anchored you're not going to have an Air Search radar on and with the proximity to Iran anchored or moored that carrier or ship will mostly sit out the initial attack from Iran if one were to happen. I remember the day the Cole was hit, I was awfully pissed off, having been the watchstander in similar refueling ops, I could understand how it happened though.

What you had was a ship that could not leave port on it's own power. There's more to a ship than screws. You have fuel pumping systems, electrical switchboards, generators, fire pumps, etc. My guess is after the hit her radar & electronics was also non functional. I won't say on the thread why but I know the reason why. Likely one nobody but a few snipes and the ET's would know. The engine room attack nearly destroyed the ship. Remember it had to be piggy backed to the states. A screw hit would have been iffy but this blast hit waterline and below.

If there is an attack going on say from Iran anywhere in the M.E. ALL ships need to leave port ASAP. A ship at sea is the most defend-able posture it can be in. Get them underway first then work out who goes where.

All refueling ops I was involved in was done at sea and for a while I worked in Fuel Oil Test Lab before going to auxiliaries.

[KJC1]

I think that from this point forward we will see them use the race card whenever possible. It's a sleazy leftist tactic, but hey-----it often works.

I think you have that backwards. There have been far too many posts here on FR lately talking smack about ARABS, not just Muslims, but ARABS. Arab is a race, Islam is an ideology.

The shoe fits.

[rlmorel]

They have us there, just as with Qatar and Bahrain, because they want our protection from larger Arab countries. This won't change.

True enough. But if we won't offer them support...what do they get out of helping us, besides grief from those same countries? From what I have heard, the UAE is not Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Syria. I have heard they have treated our military personnel fairly well over there, although I also hear they are somewhat isolated as well. Any military personnel with personal experience wish to comment?

[ARealMothersSonForever]

As to saying "No need to bash America, or other folks here. It just worked out this way," I presume you were applying that to another or others as I don't believe I had bashed anyone or our nation.

Fruitbat, that was directed toward KJC1, not you. I wish there was a CC: line; but in the meantime the first name is the To:, after that it is CC:. Sorry for the confusion. I had just noticed that you had responded to KJC1's comment to me.

[Howlin]

Oh yeah........the Hills are alive with the sound of posting!

[jpsb]

I have not seen many serious posters argue for roundup and deport. Most like me argue that if meaningful immigration reform is implemented most illegals will deport themselves.

[nicmarlo]

Nope....many don't.

[BykrBayb]

I've been told it's because they are our friends. Not allies. Not business partners. Friends. LOL. Honestly. That's what I was told.

[Flux Capacitor]

----Posted by a man who uses an animated gif in every single post.----

She's obsessed with my graphic, folks. Complains about it all the time. I'm sure I'm violating some subsection of some paragraph of some manual of Forum Decorum with it. :D

-Dan

[Junior_G]

Stiffer employee sanctions would be #1 on my list, followed by building a fence. Stopping the unfettered influx of illegal immigration is more important than getting rid of those that are already here; and I think that these are the kinds of politically tenable actions that could go a long way toward discouraging the flood. In the meantime, unfortunately, the mere discussion of these guest worker programs is only going to encourage more illegal immigration.

[Howlin]

She's obsessed with my graphic, folks. Complains about it all the time

Gee, you must have a miserable life if somebody saying something about your "graphic" twice is OBSESSED.

Maybe you should go look for a "Mr. Lonely" graphic.

[SunStar]

There's those lies again.

Which ones? That they would be operating our ports (a fact), or that the ports are a national security interest (also a fact)? Jesus, how can you trust a bunch of Arab Sheikhs in white robes this much?

[Howlin]

I have not seen many serious posters argue for roundup and deport.

Are you saying that with a straight font?

[Flux Capacitor]

Howlin, why would I be Lonely when I have you? :)

-Dan