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I'm getting to the point where I agree that the moderate Muslims are of no help. However there has been an occasional brave one who speaks out. Their silence, which is deafening at times, could be related to fear and\or tacit approval;who the hell knows which? Their whole entire religion needs a true REFORMATION. I have little or no faith that will happen. I do think Mr. Buchanan is correct that you should not insult their religion, the cartoons have had a negative effect in general.

I agree that the moderate Muslims are of no help. However there has been an occasional brave one who speaks out. Their silence, which is deafening at times, could be related to fear and\or tacit approval;who the hell knows which? Their whole entire religion needs a true REFORMATION.

What they need is more outside sources of information. Many of their societies are very insular, and they get most of their information from the local Imam.

What they need is satellite TV. That'll straighten them out in no time!

Ok, so, to me, it is a natural extension of the logic that follows from

I'm getting to the point where I agree that the moderate Muslims are of no help. However there has been an occasional brave one who speaks out. Their silence, which is deafening at times, could be related to fear and\or tacit approval;who the hell knows which? Their whole entire religion needs a true REFORMATION. I have little or no faith that will happen.

that it may eventually come down to

How can you say that nuking Mecca would "stop it today"? That would only enrage one hundred percent of the Muslims in the world and make this a thousand years MORE war. You are way too radical. Thank God people like you don't call the shots.

except that, one, no nuclear weapons are necessary, and two, there won't be any such thing as 1000 years of war. Let me explain.

If this is going be their backward, intolerant, submit or die culture (sans a Reformation, that, by the way, can only come from the Shii'te community that believes Koran is open to interpretation, as opposed to Sunni, which believe it is the last and final word of God), it only follows that they will not let us live in peace as long as we exist. In that case, drastic and radical things may come to pass. I pray it doesn't come to that. If you read my earlier post, you'll understand. "Nuking Mecca" is just a symbolic expression for ending Islam.

Yes. We have the capability to do so *and* not turn half the world into a radioactive wasteland. Can't be done ? Why not ? People just think that's impossible. Well it isn't. It's just unthinkable.

Far worse things have been done in past human history. As I said, it would not be something this generation would forgive itself. We'd have to live with that for the rest of our lives. But it appears that Islam is seriously threatening our very existence, and that they're seriously counting on us not having the stomach to destroy them.

They're a patient enemy, that uses demographics to undermine western culture and institutions. It took them only 20 years to, for example, appropriate Kosovo from Serbs. Chechnya ? Same deal. And they're just getting bolder and bolder (seen the cartoons deal?). What's next ? Autonomous province of Londonistan or south Paristan ?

Bottom line : if it comes between Dhimmitude and pressing the proverbial button, I chose the destruction of those who would enslave and/or kill my family. Even if it is a global faith. The judgement of history be damned. I pray we don't know such darkness. Fortunately, we're not there yet and there is yet a lot of hope. Reformation is the only way. One way or the other.