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Yet more evidence of conservative disillusionment with the GOP thanks to Bush. We need a Regean conservative in '08 or we're in serious trouble.
1 posted on 03/08/2006 7:08:16 AM PST by beeler
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To: beeler

Glad you put a lot of stock in Dana Milbanks assessment of this.

I can't say I do.


2 posted on 03/08/2006 7:11:54 AM PST by digger48
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To: beeler

No two ways about it. Bush hid his real self very well during his first campaign. And it came out in spades during his second....the globalist/elitist/near-liberal crawled out from under the faux-conservative makeup.


3 posted on 03/08/2006 7:11:57 AM PST by EagleUSA
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If the ancient political wisdom is correct that a charge unanswered is a charge agreed to...

How utterly childish. More often, a charge unanswered is a charge too moronic to waste time on.

I know, it should be "on which to waste time", but that sounds weird.

4 posted on 03/08/2006 7:13:34 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: beeler
GOP is analogous to a religion
"Conservative" is analogous to a faith.

Religions often vary from the faith as they are subject to human failings, dogma and doctrine.

Conservatism is a set of principles, priorities and values that would define a guide a governing body's actions.

That the Republican Party (the religion if you will) would stray from the faith is not to be unexpected in a world of Realpolitik.

Net: conservatives ought to blame themselves for [having the] the illusion that the current Republican party is conservative. Acknowledge the differences between conservatism and Republicanism and SELL 'Republicans' on the value of being conservative. Don't be a critic, be persuasive and realistic.
7 posted on 03/08/2006 7:17:27 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: beeler

I've been a conservative republican forever....and I am no longer going to tout the Party Line.


10 posted on 03/08/2006 7:19:21 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: beeler

I'm hopin Rudy.

No more inside southern good ol boys....clintoon...W...Allen...they can't say no to there friends.

I want an outsider Yankee skinflint.


14 posted on 03/08/2006 7:22:57 AM PST by Blackirish (What kind of name is Plame anyway?)
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To: beeler
"This is a big-government agenda," he said. "It is fueled by a new ideology, the ideology of Christian fundamentalism." The bearded pundit offered his own indictment of Bush: "complete contempt" for democratic processes, torture of detainees, ignoring habeas corpus and a "vast expansion of the federal government."

I didn't know that the Cato Institute was part of DU.

17 posted on 03/08/2006 7:24:33 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: beeler

If Reagan was President you wouldnt like him


20 posted on 03/08/2006 7:26:12 AM PST by woofie
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To: beeler
You want more evidence?

I chaired our precinct caucuses in our very conservative town for the fourth time now, and witnessed a complete collapse of support for the GOP. Our attendance went from about 50 participants eight years ago, 80 in 2000 and last night...we had only five. Count'em five attendees. And we were supposed to pick approximately 25 delegates. Everyone who did show up was a rock-ribbed conservative. And all felt that it was a result of widespread disgruntlement with the administration's and Congressional betrayals on national security issues such as borders and ports and industry, plus governmental excess, spending and trade deficits, etc. No more trust. The blank check has been burned up.

Check this WND editorial out:

Dubya's last stand
By Joseph Farah, Posted: March 8, 2006
WorldNetDaily.com

Lame duck George W. Bush obviously has no care for how his party performs in the 2008 presidential election.

But he has a little more time to consider his own fate in the 2006 mid-term congressional elections.

Oh, it won't make any difference whether Republicans or Democrats are elected this fall to the rest of us. After all, with Republicans in charge of Congress and the White House for the last six years, spending has increased way beyond anything we imagined during President Clinton's eight years in office.

Republicans have also shown that they don't really care more about national security than their Democratic opponents. Just look at our still-unguarded borders and reflect on the plan to turn over port operations to the Islamists in the United Arab Emirates.

So, as far as I am concerned, I don't have a dog in this race. Republicans have so badly mangled any opportunity they had to show the American people a distinction between the two parties that I'm at the point where I wish for a plague on both their houses.

But Bush should care.

Why?

Because his legacy is at stake.

In fact, his presidency is at stake.

I'm going to make a prediction, and I don't think I'm out on a limb on this one.

If the Democrats win the House and Senate this fall – which appears to be a distinct possibility with Bush's 38 percent approval rating – then Bush will be impeached in 2007.

I don't know what the grounds will be. Take your pick. The Democrats will find something – or invent something.

They will take revenge on the Republicans for the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

There is not a doubt in my mind. And, unlike the Republicans, if the Democrats control the Senate, Bush is no longer a lame duck – he's a dead duck.

And I for one won't lift a finger to defend him – even against charges that may be as bogus as a Jimmy Carter dollar bill.

While the Democrats will impeach Bush for the wrong reasons, I can't deny that in a righteous country that honored and lived up to its Constitution, Bush would surely deserve to be impeached.

In essence, he has been something we haven't seen in American politics for a long time – a kind of absentee president.

His failure to exercise a single veto in six years in office is perhaps the gravest indictment of his lack of leadership.

I'll never forget the first time I ever met George W. Bush. He was speaking to a relatively small but friendly crowd when he was asked a softball question: "Governor Bush, what will you do as president if a clearly unconstitutional bill arrives on your desk?"

Bush's unbelievable response was: "How will I know if it's unconstitutional?"

That was it for me. I vowed not to vote for Bush in 2000, even though he was running against a man I truly feared and have described as a fool and a demagogue – Al Gore. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Bush over Gore, even though I had personally been harassed and persecuted by the White House during his reign as vice president. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Bush in 2000, even though I knew his opponent to be a cheap crook.

Yet, some astute observers attributed Bush's victory over Gore to the latter's failure to win his home state of Tennessee, where an 18-part WND investigative series on his corrupt antics was widely reprinted and reported and talked about on radio shows. While Gore was clearly unworthy of the White House, I take little pride today in any role our expose played in benefiting Bush – despite the fact that the series resulted in a $165 million lawsuit against my own company – one we are still battling six years later.

If anyone were truly hoping to be proved wrong about George W. Bush, it was me.

Unfortunately, my initial assessment was right.

And while I did endorse him in 2004, it was strictly out of sympathy with the Swiftboat Vets and their righteous and successful bid to deny John Kerry, a traitor to his country, the White House. I make no apologies about that decision.

Bush's success has largely been due to the total unworthiness and unfitness of his opponents.

Unless he miraculously changes his governing style in the next six months and wins back the American people, he had better hope they are not up to the task of impeaching him. Because that is what's coming if the Democrats win big in November – as it appears they will.

26 posted on 03/08/2006 7:29:54 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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I hate to tell you and others in this thread this...well, no I don't.

CATO is not a conservative think tank.

It is a LIBERTARIAN think tank.

LIBERTARIANS are not conservative and are NOT the Majority...much as they wish it were so.

Their featured speakers are Bartlett and Sullivan.

If ever a group wanted to harm itself, inviting Andrew Sullivan to be a featured speaker is one way to do it.


32 posted on 03/08/2006 7:37:19 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Rush on the MSM: drive-by shooters)
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"If Bush were running today against Bill Clinton, I'd vote for Clinton," Bartlett served.

Schmuck.

33 posted on 03/08/2006 7:39:34 AM PST by dighton
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To: beeler

"Read my lips, no-new-borrowing!"


40 posted on 03/08/2006 7:50:21 AM PST by budwiesest
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To: beeler

Andrew Sullivan is no conservative.


50 posted on 03/08/2006 8:02:21 AM PST by holdonnow
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At Conservative Forum on Bush, Everybody's a Critic

OH - I thought this was about FreeRepublic.

67 posted on 03/08/2006 8:55:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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Now why would the administration pass up such an invitation?

A better question is why should anyone from the administration go? They have much better things to do.

95 posted on 03/08/2006 9:48:19 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: beeler

Both parties seem to be coming apart at the seams. I think the Democrats are in worse shape than the Republicans, but there are a lot of disenchanted conservatives. Perhaps there are multiple parties in our future.


156 posted on 03/08/2006 11:48:09 AM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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The Libertarian Cato Institute is the author for the Bush's "business friendly" Guest Worker policy. You'd think the Bushies would attend Cato out of gratitude for that at least.

Trade Policy Analysis No. 19 October 15, 2002

Willing Workers:
Fixing the Problem of Illegal
Mexican Migration to the United States

by Daniel Griswold

Daniel Griswold is associate director of the Cato Institute's Center for Trade Policy Studies.


166 posted on 03/08/2006 12:06:26 PM PST by Plutarch
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"If Bush were running today against Bill Clinton, I'd vote for Clinton," Bartlett served.

Well la-dee-da. Strawman BS. Bush ran against Gore and then Kerry. I made the right choices then and would do it again. No question about it. This is the real world..not make-believe think tank monday morning quarterbacking.
177 posted on 03/08/2006 12:55:00 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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It might also have had something to do with speaker No. 2, conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan.




Who is Andrew Sullivan and how is he a conservative?


180 posted on 03/08/2006 1:04:31 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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True, the small-government libertarians represented by Cato have always been the odd men out of the Bush coalition.




Not even the 'bots can call Bush a small government conservative with any credibility.


181 posted on 03/08/2006 1:05:50 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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