The evolutionists have no more evidence that any species, flora or fauna, evolved on this planet at all than anyone who would say it was delivered and/or engineered by extraterrestrials...
The evolutionists have no more proof human life evolved from other Terran life than those who would say humans were marooned and/or engineered here by extraterrestrials...
Evolutionists make the fallacious assumption the Earth is the staring point for all life and is the encapsulated center of the universe unaffected by anything (or anyone) beyond it - - which may be even occurring unobserved in our midst!
Not at all scientific of them... a faith based theory no different in logical fallacy than creationism in the ‘appeal to false authority.’
[Life as we know it, of which all has DNA; exists only because H2O is a polar molecule.]
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Posted by Sir Francis Dashwood to manwiththehands
On News/Activism ^ 03/08/2006 2:24:11 AM PST · 440 of 707 ^
How do you feel about teaching the idea that life may have originated from outer space?
They already do... the Big Bang theory... another immaculate conception...
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As long as the extraterrestrials seeded the earth with some organism subject to replication errors and selection, it doesn't matter to the study of biological evolution, which is what Darwin formalized, or the truth value of common descent. If they supposedly stuck around and 'tweaked' species every once in a while they would have left traces which, if they exists, has not been found yet. We do however have a pile of evidence for DNA sequences suffering errors, random additions, and viral insertions in such a pattern as to strongly support common descent.
"The evolutionists have no more proof human life evolved from other Terran life than those who would say humans were marooned and/or engineered here by extraterrestrials...
Actually we have much evidence that common descent is true. We have no evidence that the Earth was ever visited by aliens nor do we have evidence that they marooned humans here. In fact we have no evidence that aliens even exist.
"Evolutionists make the fallacious assumption the Earth is the staring point for all life and is the encapsulated center of the universe unaffected by anything (or anyone) beyond it - - which may be even occurring unobserved in our midst!
You certainly can make much of little. Evolutionists, to use your word, make the assumption that Earth is the start of life on Earth because, so far, we have no evidence otherwise.
There has been in recent times some speculation that Earth was seeded by Mars. If this is true it will not affect the study of common descent one iota. If it turns out that the Earth was seeded by aliens from some other systems, or by passing through clouds of complex chemicals in space, as long as those aliens did not 'tweak' the DNA throughout the 3.5 bys that life has existed on Earth it will make no difference to the contributory studies of the ToE or common descent. We have no evidence of the tweaking, either in the genome or in the form of normal 'artificial' remnants of civilization.
If these aliens are tweaking DNA as we speak they are obviously a lot more powerful than we are, and damn good at hiding. "Not at all scientific of them... a faith based theory no different in logical fallacy than creationism in the ‘appeal to false authority.’
You can ape the words but can you back them up with evidence?
"[Life as we know it, of which all has DNA; exists only because H2O is a polar molecule.]
Your point being? You seem to be making an attempt to validate ID by going the alien route. If we completely remove the suggestion of a God creating man on Earth but postulate that aliens produced the variety of organisms here in an attempt to disprove evolution, then we have a bit of a problem. Simply put the aliens need to have their own beginnings. Either they were created by God, 'evolved', are the product of some other natural non-evolutionary process or were seeded by yet another alien organism. Eventually we have to reach a point where God, evolution or some other natural process created the 'first ones'. Since you are trying to remove God from the process, as evidenced by your talk of aliens, we are left with natural means only.
If some natural process created aliens, then this same process could produce all of Earthly life without any external influence. If not, then something on Earth must pose some barrier to a natural process creating variation. What is this barrier? Is there something in the physical composition of our atmosphere, our water, radiation, whatever that actually prevents a natural process from producing variation?