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You could find parking at the beach? You could get to and from the mountains without half a day in bumper to bumper coming and going? You could go to a park, with your kids, and not end up regretting it more than half the time?

Not sure what bummer deal you happened to experience, but down here in OC, it's so mundane, it's almost boring.

Parking lots in HB are 1% of capacity 90% of the year. (And of course, as every native knows, the nicest beach days are in the winter.) Even on the busiest summer days, you can usually find a spot.

People commute from the Santa Ana Mtns (eg Trubuco Cyn) on a daily basis - perhaps they experience some of that traffic you mentioned.

Parks in OC are peaceful and idylic - nice Little League fields as well.

Sound like you were living next to Inglewatts - any inner city rathole in any state would be like that, not just Calif.

(And of course, as every native knows, the nicest beach days are in the winter.)

Now you are giving away all of our secrets. LOL.

I used to head straight to the beach when I would come home on break from college. My college roommates, who were East Coast natives, always had trouble believing the sunny beach scenes in the photos I brought back to school really had been taken during Thanksgiving break.

I salute your income, sir. Anyplace is nice when you can afford it.

And that is the point. My 80k goes much farther in Collin County than it would in OC. My salary was basically living wage in SoCal.

And lets not even discuss the commute from HB to Downtown LA. It was bad enough from Lawndale.