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PM shuns US 'slavish love of guns'
ninemsn ^ | Mar 1, 2006 | NA

Posted on 03/01/2006 12:40:25 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note Americans and Canadians before it's too late!


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101 posted on 03/01/2006 2:06:47 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I got this in an email yesterday from my buddy who's a Sheriff.
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Here's a thought to warm your hearts... From Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia.




Ask your buddy if I could have Ed Chenel's e-mail addy, would you please? There are a couple of questions I would like to ask him. The first one being, where were you born in the US? You sure don't write like an Aussie, you sound a whole lot like a Texan...LOL!


102 posted on 03/01/2006 2:16:43 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Dead Dog

You got it.

It's our "slavish" love of guns that ultimately keeps us free.

Freedom is slavery indeed.


103 posted on 03/01/2006 2:32:47 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: steel_resolve

oh yeah? Well I love my guns SLAVISHLY!

lolol


104 posted on 03/01/2006 2:35:29 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: woolies
Learn to read your own statistics. Even you police are saying crime has risen dramatically. Read all the post on this thread and them come back with your BS. Australia's crime rate has risen since the big buy back. Maybe you can get a gun, with the right permits, but how hard is it to get the permit?

Technically, you can get a handgun in NYC also, but in reality it is almost impossible to get one, and good luck on trying to get a carry permit if you do get one to own.

I would suspect that is where Australia is at right now and by the sounds of Howard it is going to get tougher to get a gun. Dream on and keep telling yourself that all this stuff are lies.

105 posted on 03/01/2006 2:36:57 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind and, BTW, Stå sammen med danskerne !)
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To: M203M4
Your post 13 reminds me of something. Somewhere out there in Internet Land is a site showing a revolver. Next to it is some text noting that so many hours have passed by and the revolver still has not gotten up and shot somebody.

Does anyone have the URL?

106 posted on 03/01/2006 2:39:35 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: neverdem
Howard didn't do a doggone thing about locking up the crazies who do that kind of killing though. It was his first thought to punish the innocent and the same. That's probably why they have so many more of that kind now than they did then. He even began importing more of them lest they run short of nut cases.

Why do they let this man out of his cell to bother people anyway?

107 posted on 03/01/2006 2:43:01 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: neverdem
At least 1 Aussie had a gun to save his heroic granny! Heroic Granny!
108 posted on 03/01/2006 2:45:38 PM PST by Always Learning
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; naturalman1975

The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.





Re my response # 102: Don't bother your buddy for that e-mail addy, I found what I was looking for. It wasn't difficult. There's only ONE Chenel in the white pages in the ENTIRE COUNTRY.


109 posted on 03/01/2006 2:46:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: woolies
You can own guns there??? Seems that this page from the US Military says otherwise..

From here

Firearms Restrictions

In 1996, Australia passed sweeping firearms legislation, which now outlaws within Australia the possession of most firearms such as rifles, shotguns and handguns .

Firearms include any implement which fires a projectile-paintball guns, pellet guns, air rifles, etc. It is not impossible to bring your weapon into Australia (but, almost impossible and highly not recommended!). You must first fully and clearly declare your weapon to TMO and Australian Customs (concealing a firearm in household goods or in personal baggage is a very serious offense). Depending upon the weapon, you might be required to obtain a permit to import from Australian authorities. Upon being shipped into Australia, Australian Customs will confiscate your weapon. Pistols will be detained until written permission is granted from the police authorities in your Australian state of residence. Air and gas-operated pistols are prohibited.

You must then pay Queen's Bond (non-reimbursable) to Australian Customs and show that you have a non-criminal record and proper gun safety and training. Additionally, firearms imported are subject to safety testing (fee-for-service). After you pay a bond and fee for safety testing, and recover your weapon from Customs, the use of your weapon will then be restricted solely to registered gun clubs (with high membership dues and fees). Weapon storage requirements in Australia are also very substantial (i.e.: highly secure vaults in residence, and/or storage at a gun club at a fee-for-service; weapon, weapon bolt, ammo, all stored separately; etc.). If you elect to bring weapons against this advice, you are required to follow all applicable Australian laws and regulations, and deal personally with all applicable Australian Federal and State government agencies.

Simply put, best advice: do not plan to bring any firearms to Australia!

Hmm.. Not too gun friendly to me..

110 posted on 03/01/2006 2:47:05 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Fred Nerks
"And one of the things I don't admire about America is their ... slavish love of guns. They're evil."

My gun isn't evil...but sometimes I am tempted to be.

111 posted on 03/01/2006 2:57:10 PM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; Aussie Dasher; girlangler

Dr. Z- I have a tough time biting down on this pill. If I am not mistaken, in Australia the 'Liberal' party is much like conservatives in the US.

Google search 'Rebecca Peters', she is the Aussie behind many international gun-grabs (via the UN) and receives much financial backing from George Soros. Did you receive the last NRA newsletter? It had an excellent article on her.


112 posted on 03/01/2006 2:58:45 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: proud_yank; Dr.Zoidberg; Aussie Dasher; girlangler
The Peter's Principle - NRA Publications An excellent read!
113 posted on 03/01/2006 3:00:57 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: neverdem

He's usually a pretty sharp guy.

I wonder who peed in his cornflakes that day?


114 posted on 03/01/2006 3:03:49 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: muawiyah

"Why do they let this man out of his cell to bother people anyway?"


And this is your brain on a certain substance.


115 posted on 03/01/2006 3:04:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

That was great. Someone said that he must've had a black belt in "gun fu" :D


116 posted on 03/01/2006 3:04:53 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: neverdem

Australia's crime rate went up after they banned guns. Bad move.


117 posted on 03/01/2006 3:08:46 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: proud_yank
From your linked article!

But the truth is, gun death rates ARE already tiny in Australia—less than 100 firearms homicides yearly for the whole country.

(And that statistic would include accidental shootings and suicides.)

118 posted on 03/01/2006 3:13:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

There was some news about a year or so ago that had to do with what you posted. I don't know if it is true or not, but apparently some lady tracked down a rapist and shot his balls off, or otherwise made his apparatus ineffective. As I remember it, the rapist had harmed either her or her daughter and although the Aussies were supposed to have turned in guns, she kept one, and put it to good use.


119 posted on 03/01/2006 3:19:09 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An eduction is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Amazing, no? Actually, 100 is homicides, the total number (homicides & suicides) was 700 if I'm not mistaken.


120 posted on 03/01/2006 3:22:47 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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