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To: Aussie Dasher
"There is no way to be helpful to other people unless you are honest about yourself."
True. And that, I regret to say, is something I can express no confidence in Ms. Fonda's capacity for.

In the first place,

"I have been spending time with Iraq veterans who have come back ... their voices are the most important because the Bush administration can't say they are unpatriotic.

"We have to support the ones who have been there who say this is wrong. What they are saying is, pull the troops out now."

is sheer tendentiousness; why are those who do not "say this is wrong" less worthy of "support"? In the nature of things the American military is for good and sufficent reason determinedly apolitical; General Eisenhower was courted by both political parties to be their candidate for POTUS in 1952 because he was not a known political quantity. Ms. Fonda and her ilk subvert a crucial American tradition by promoting political activism in the military.

Journalists who give this sort of rhetoric legs are acting out a fantasy of rescuing the mutinous troops trapped in the quagmire of the Western Front in WWI. Ms. Fonda is promoting herself by indulging in that fantasy for the journalists' benefit.

Fonda's stand on the Vietnam War made her deeply unpopular among war veterans and that animosity survives today.
So much for the "mutinous troops in the quagmire" fantasy she promoted then and is promoting now . . .
Fonda's political activism, film career and personal life are covered in her autobiography, titled My Life So Far, which she is in Australia to promote.
. . . so she has a financial as well as an ego motive in this confidence swindle . . .

19 posted on 02/28/2006 1:06:26 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: marron
Ping to my #19, marron.

I refer everyone to marron's moving thesis:

Mom, Apple Pie, and the Ghost of Quagmires Past

49 posted on 02/28/2006 7:30:57 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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