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A Grand Strategy on Ending Poverty Could Separate Dems from GOP
Madison.com ^ | February 27, 2006 | Bill Spevacek

Posted on 02/27/2006 2:46:40 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Chances Are

Precisely. Not in terms of actual currency those're just abstract numbers attached to represent a value and fluctuate daily. But in terms of actual value, yes.


61 posted on 02/27/2006 3:47:12 PM PST by Aurric dihydrogen oxide (Yes, I am a conservative. Maybe not your type; but I am a conservative. Deal with it.)
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To: Patrick1
What is in the water in Madison?

A lot of naturally occuring acid augmented with liberal applications of booze???

62 posted on 02/27/2006 3:49:34 PM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: Reddy

Thank you for the verses.

Kinda makes my point. Certainly we must help the needy. I just don't recall anything about "eliminating poverty."


63 posted on 02/27/2006 3:50:17 PM PST by gate2wire
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, I'm sure that corrupt dictators will use our aid for the benefit of their people, and not send any of it to their private swiss bank accounts......

/channeling Bono


64 posted on 02/27/2006 3:50:49 PM PST by bordergal (1)
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To: Aurric dihydrogen oxide

Then how do eeconomies grow?


65 posted on 02/27/2006 3:52:23 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wow another presentation of the lefts solution for any problem that comes up: worldwide socialism. Keep trying guys! One of these centuries somebody will buy it. Idiots.


66 posted on 02/27/2006 3:53:44 PM PST by mthom
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To: DEADROCK
Agree on the "crap" statement. Also, using the writer's "teach a man to fish" metaphor; Democrats have always been for "gave a man a fish and you feed him for a day" philosophy and it's the Republicans who have been for "teach a man to fish and he'll feed himself for a lifetime" philosophy. I see nothing on the horizon that will change this.
67 posted on 02/27/2006 3:55:36 PM PST by snoringbear
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To: cryptical
So we should just give up, because the Bible says so? Rather, you say that the Bible says so...

There are many reasons why people are poor. Often, the problem is not a lack of wealth, and adding wealth will not solve the problem.

That isn't to suggest that one shouldn't try to good in cases where one actually can do some good, but throwing money at poor people will in many cases simply feed the underlying pathologies without really doing anything to help them.

68 posted on 02/27/2006 3:55:57 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Is Bill SpaceCadet in Jr High School? I think I wrote something similar to this back then.


69 posted on 02/27/2006 3:58:58 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Aurric dihydrogen oxide
While I've been constantly surprised by the accomplishments of this euro-socialist trend (which, as early as six years ago, was reported by many to doubtlessly be a 'fad') and the successes of the smaller European markets as well as the EU as a whole, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Many countries have a lot of capital in forms that don't show up on balance sheets. A person who is trained in the practice of medicine and has some number of years before retirement is such an asset. It's possible for socialism to harvest capital and turn it into present-day revenue. Such behavior will work wonderfully as long as there remains capital to be harvested. But when the capital dries up, things will get very bad.

The situation could be viewed as akin to a large store. One day, a new owner takes over and decides to cut prices by 25% and offer everyone a 25% pay raise. The only thing he stops doing is buying as much inventory as he's selling. Until he runs out of product, his employers and customers will think he's much better than the former owner. When the inventory runs out, everything will go kaput. But until then, everything will seem wonderful.

70 posted on 02/27/2006 4:01:50 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: airborne

I felt the same way.

LLS


71 posted on 02/27/2006 4:04:35 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: TChris

"It is demonstrably, patently impossible to 'eliminate poverty thoughout the world'."

I beg to differ, one could exterminate the people living in poverty. Evil, but possible nonetheless.


72 posted on 02/27/2006 4:06:33 PM PST by Go_Raiders ("Being able to catch well in a crowd just means you can't get open, that's all." -- James Lofton)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We know that neo-Marxists the world over love the poor. They are working so hard to make more of them.


73 posted on 02/27/2006 4:08:26 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

74 posted on 02/27/2006 4:10:25 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Patrick1

The water is laced with LSD and PCP............

What a nutcase!!!


75 posted on 02/27/2006 4:10:34 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Aurric dihydrogen oxide

The only picture I get is you babbling.

Capital has increased vastly on a global basis since 1776, when Adam Smith penned "The Wealth of Nations" and set towards independence. Since then, the US has increased its wealth the way Adam Smith says its happens - by increasing our productive capacity. In doing so, we tore nobody down, although on a relative basis we are now #1. Yet every nation you mention is incomparably richer than it was back then, and is also richer than a mere 30 years ago.


76 posted on 02/27/2006 4:20:38 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: gate2wire

Maybe I was confusing, but I was agreeing with you :)


77 posted on 02/27/2006 4:20:38 PM PST by Reddy
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To: WOSG

lilliput


78 posted on 02/27/2006 4:21:09 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: Reddy

Maybe I was confusing. I was thanking you for your help. LOL.


79 posted on 02/27/2006 4:23:14 PM PST by gate2wire
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To: gate2wire
""And, oh yes, eliminating poverty is a dominant message of the Bible, if that means anything to you." I not an expert on the Bible, but where does it say this?"

It must be somewhere near the scriptures that say "The poor will always be among you" and "He that will not work, neither should he eat."

80 posted on 02/27/2006 4:24:36 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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