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To: montyspython
No, Slovenia fired the first shots, their noses were first in the mix.

No offense, that's not my understanding of what happened. And that's not what was shown in the histories. Do you have any documentation to back up your statement?


Bosnians are not some separate ethnic identity as you are eluding to, Tito made that up. Bosnians are either Serbs or Croats, simple as that.

Again, that's not what my experience showed. I'd always been taught that the true Bosnians were the muzzies...and that there was a distinct difference between the (largely Catholic) Croats and the (largely Orthodox) Serbs and the (largely muzzie) Bosnians. There may be no genetic difference, but, from what I saw over there, there was a cultural one.

33 posted on 02/27/2006 2:17:13 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley

That was due to Ottoman occupation, what you were taught versus the reality of the matter are different.


34 posted on 02/27/2006 2:19:45 PM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: markomalley
"I'd always been taught that the true Bosnians were the muzzies..."

The Serbs were a greater part of Bosnia's population until only the last few decades.

Back during Austrian rule the census had Serbs in the low 40% range and Muslims in the low 30%, so a reverse of what you have today. Then consider that there are "Bosniaks" in the Sandzak (region that covers part of Serbia and part of Montenegro) who never lived in Bosnia nor did their ancestors. They were given an identity by the Ottoman Turks.

Izetbegovic himself had parents who came from Belgrade, and a great many other Bosnian Muslims had ancestors who were originally from Serbia or Montenegro.

Additionally, many Hungarians and Albanians who settled in Bosnia over the last 150 years are now "good Bosniaks" - and this according to a Serb and Croat hating Bosniak himself. (There were also many Ukrainians who were brought over during Austrian rule, and most of those became Croats or mixed more with the Croat Catholics.)

36 posted on 02/27/2006 3:39:35 PM PST by joan
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To: markomalley
Bosnian muslims ... BAD Serbians who gave in to to satan and became muslims long long ago!!
44 posted on 02/27/2006 5:23:34 PM PST by Lion in Winter (The older I get the more I want to see ISLAM EXPOSED AS THE SHAM it is...)
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To: markomalley; joan; GAB-1955
Excluding some 30,000 Albanians living in the south-east, the Jews who emigrated in earlier times from Spain, a few Osmanli Turks, the merchants, officials. and Austrian troops, the rest of the population (about 98 per cent) belong to the southern Slavonic people, the Serbs. Although one in race, the people form in religious beliefs three sharply separated divisions: the Mohammedans, about 550,000 persons (35 per cent), Greek Schismatics, about 674,000 persons (43 per cent), and Catholics, about 334,000 persons (21.3 per cent).

Catholic Encyclopedia, 1910
50 posted on 02/27/2006 7:45:34 PM PST by zagor-te-nej (USS - United States of Serbia)
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