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Study: Modern Humans Killed Off Neanderthals Quickly
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| Saturday, February 25, 2006
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Posted on 02/25/2006 5:11:22 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude
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To: AntiGuv
The simplest answer is that they killed the Neanderthals.How about disease?
To: SampleMan
Who wants a 150 pound two year old in their house, who is trying to breed with every woman that walks by?My sister had four of those, not counting her husband.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:33:31 AM PST
by
Graymatter
(...and what are we going to do about it?)
To: Graymatter
They have looked at mtDNA sequences in Neanderthal fossils and early human European fossils and the sequences characteristic of Neanderthal fossils are absent from the early human fossils that they've examined. That is powerful evidence of no intermixing, at least so far as the bloodlines of those particular early humans.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:35:16 AM PST
by
AntiGuv
To: ThreePuttinDude
Neanderthals in Europe were killed off by the advance of modern humans thousands of years earlier than previously believed, losing a competition for food and shelter, according to a scientific study published Wednesday.The sudden death, the different cranial structure and the DNA can all be explained by the Biblical flood.
b'shem Y'shua
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:37:04 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
To: Graymatter
PS. And mtDNA sequences recovered from Neanderthal fossils have not been found in modern humans (meaning humans alive today) either.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:37:24 AM PST
by
AntiGuv
To: Graymatter
Good morning.
"Once the "community" has collapsed, from a social unit to mere numbers of individuals (every man for himself), the process of extinction speeds up real good."
Once the population levels fall below a certain point, there is virtually no chance of recovery. A plague that Cro-Magnon is immune to could easily account for the demise of Neanderthal. Even though there might be survivors with immunity, if there weren't enough they would be doomed.
Michal Frazier
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:38:13 AM PST
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: SampleMan
I don't understand the discussion. Is there evidence, that the russians do not love their children?
Humans are of the group, that have few children and invest their lives in them.
Would not neanderthal do the same?
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:38:38 AM PST
by
patton
(Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
To: edsheppa
It would be extraordinary for disease alone to kill an entire population, but it certainly may've been a factor.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:41:13 AM PST
by
AntiGuv
To: patton
The question is whether a human woman would invest her life raising the progeny of a Neandertal man who raped her. I rather doubt it myself.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:43:42 AM PST
by
AntiGuv
To: blam
Hard to believe this thread has gone to 190 posts without a Ping to Blam. (Or did I miss it?)
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:45:00 AM PST
by
ASA Vet
(Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
To: AntiGuv
Maybe I just need a little more coffee, but I'm still wondering about this mtDNA conclusion.
Let's say we have ten generations of females, mother-daughter-daughter...
The first mother in the sequence is pure-CM. She mates with a pure Neandertal and so does every female down the line. (I know, just a thought experiment.)
The tenth lady has mtDNA telling us she's CM. She looks like a Neandertal, as she jolly well ought after all those Neandertal male ancestors.
My question is, are we looking at anything besides her mtDNA? And is mtDNA by itself, in a case like hers, telling us what we need to know? In other words is it giving us truth or just fact?
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:45:14 AM PST
by
Graymatter
(...and what are we going to do about it?)
To: ThreePuttinDude
This is beyond rediculous. Where did the Home Sapiens evolve? how did they move into the areas where the Neanderthals lived. How did one group have a dramatic increase in inteligence while the other remained crude and clumsey? If this is science it is laughable. Why don't we get obliterated by the next big jump in evolution? That people actually believe this cripe is amazing.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:46:38 AM PST
by
mhuye
(http://theonewhoislost.blogspot.com/)
To: Graymatter
Good morning.
"IOW ugliness doesn't stop a woman from reproducing."
At the same time, raping the females of your defeated enemies has always been used to show your disdain for them and to burn off some of the adrenaline combat produces, even if you kill them when you are done. Some impregnated Neanderthal females COULD have survived.
Michael Frazier
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:47:45 AM PST
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: patton
Would not neanderthal do the same? I would take you back to not putting too much into the fact that the skeletons look a like.
Did Neanderthals love their children? Don't know. Do cows love their calves? They certainly are attached to them for a while, but they don't appear to love them in our sense. They certainly don't raise them with a concept for the future. But my point wasn't that they didn't love them, it was that they might have grown up much faster.
If a person grew up to adult size and reproductive capability in 2 years vice 13-16, then they would be better at fending for themselves physically, but worse mentally.
Why are you assuming that Neanderthals were human? A goose isn't a duck, despite their similarities.
To: AntiGuv
So that is the basis for the abortionists claim, it is justified in cases of rape?
I am not attacking you, just thinking.
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02/25/2006 8:49:25 AM PST
by
patton
(Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
To: AntiGuv
>>The question is whether a human woman would invest her life raising the progeny of a Neandertal man who raped her. I rather doubt it myself.
The question prior to that is whether she and her clan knew that sex causes babies, and moreover, that babies acquire characteristics from fathers. This is obvious to us but not all cave persons grasped it.
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:50:55 AM PST
by
Graymatter
(...and what are we going to do about it?)
To: XeniaSt
Please explain how a regional flood 10's of thousands of years after Neandertal disappeared is causal?
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:51:06 AM PST
by
ASA Vet
(Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
To: Graymatter
SampleMan, or anybody else, can you answer this? The conclusion that we are not related to Neandertals, is it based solely on mtDNA research or has there been another sort of genetic evidence? Because I don't see how mtDNA alone could prove it. Antiguv, like I said, I gotta go, but would you answer this please for Graymatter.
Graymatter, THE NEANDERTHAL ENIGMAN, by James Shreeve covers this very well and its an interesting read.
To: ThreePuttinDude
They still walk among us. See the head on Bob Beckel?
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posted on
02/25/2006 8:53:01 AM PST
by
toddlintown
(Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
To: ThreePuttinDude
Wasn't there a study a few months ago to say that "humans" didn't kill off the Neanderthals? There have been other recent studies saying that events in Ancient India or Israel weren't real conquests.
It may be that the answers scientists get depend on what they're looking for. I'd hold off on believing these studies for a long time until the scientists have gotten everything in order.
Here's another thing humans are guilty of.
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02/25/2006 8:53:01 AM PST
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