[mugs99]

the embryo is a developing human from the very beginning.

This is what confuses me. If eighty percent of human embryos are spontaneously aborted in menstruation, should we require menstrual fluids be examined to save those humans?
.

[Im4LifeandLiberty]

"the embryo is a developing human from the very beginning.

This is what confuses me. If eighty percent of human embryos are spontaneously aborted in menstruation, should we require menstrual fluids be examined to save those humans?"

Three points:

1) This is the first time I have heard 80%. The rate of unsuccessful implantation most frequently cited is between 40% and 60%.

2) Reproductive endocrinologists have begun in recent years to question that a majority of newly-conceived embryos are lost before implantation, for this estimate includes embryos who have been conceived while their mother is on hormonal birth control, which thins the uterine lining for the express purpose of causing the embryos to be "flushed out" during menstruation. It is thus, not natural for that percentage of new human lives to be ended.

3) The natural death rate for all human beings is 100%. That people inevitably die does not make it acceptable to induce their deaths. Acknowledgment that is is wrong to kill fellow human beings does not necessitate investigation of every single deathbed (or as you have euggested, menstrual blood). Death is natural and perfectly ok. Causing it is not. No wrong has been done when parents who are open to the lives of their embryonic children lose those children, whether they are aware they have conceived or not. Parents who treat their new children as commodities, by testing them and selectively implanting or destroying them during an IVF procedure, or by consciously using abortifacients, are intentionally taking life and are culpable in so doing.

[klossg]

If eighty percent of human embryos are spontaneously aborted in menstruation

I would not rely on this data. No one has truly studied this, as they would have to examine large numbers of menstrual fluids from large numbers of fertile women who are on not using birth control. There is no money in this. There is money though in scaring women into believing that infertility treatments are needed because the natural chance of becoming pregnant is unlikely. Personally I feel the average female reproductive system is built better than only 20% of fertilized eggs being accepted by the womb. The female body is complex, but it is made to hold onto life with hormones and nutrients. Did you hear about the woman who weighed 37 pounds at the time of conception?

And also, if a woman's body spontaneously rejects a baby, God's will is done completely. This is not an "abortion." It is as you imply a dead baby and should be respected as such. And I can think of no better tribute to that human life than for God to have decided that life had to take the shortest route possible to his kingdom and the last person the baby touched was his/her mommy.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Not to mention tubal pregnancies.

[AliVeritas]

That's a natural process.