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To: Mark Felton

> Since it, life, exists, without doubt a force, or series of consequential forces, exist that caused it to come into existence in the first place

Yes. These are the forces that control chemcial reactions... electromagnetism, mostly. But a "life force" is just so much newage, unless you have some evidence of it.


19 posted on 02/21/2006 11:22:46 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam
Yes. These are the forces that control chemcial reactions... electromagnetism, mostly. But a "life force" is just so much newage, unless you have some evidence of it."

Nothing newage about science. I am using the terms force, and life for specific self-evident reasons.

Life exists because there are number (t.b.d) of natural forces (known or unknown) that act together to create a complex stable system of chemical interactions.

Random creations based on the fundamental forces (strong, weak, electromafnetic, gravity) must still have some directional vector applied to the primitive chemicals that drive creative interactions to form more complex systems that eventually become adaptive to the environment (forcing itself to remain the same) and reproductive (forcing itself to create a copy of the same system).

Why should a system adapt to the environment? Why is it important or necessary that it "survive" unchanged at all?

Simply existing and surviving a round of life/death "decision-making" (to simplify the model of evolution for sake of discussion) does not explain the origination of the system in the first place. Simply assuming that a system is the offspring of a random set of system components from the prior round of life/death decision-making is wholly inadequate because the parents and offspring are still products of a very limited and finite set of components.

All evolutionary models that exist today assume a priori the existence of a set of compenents that are capable of evolving. The components all begin their evolution having already achieved a tremendous complexity from non-evolutinary processes, that are unexplained, as yet.

"There is no logical way to the discovery of these elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance." -- Albert Einstein.

Most scientific breakthroughs are products of error or products of a mind that questions the popular science.

57 posted on 02/22/2006 6:24:04 AM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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