How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline. Forever!

Addendum, I could go into a great analysis on how their results support the leftist goal to control all the population by moving us all into planned communities and getting rid of the evil automobile but the mere fact that it's published by berkeley and berkeley east already says that.

I'm confused. Wouldn't the moonbats want us to get away from Big Oil by using sustainable natural resources?

Not if it means we still get to drive our cars and control our own destiny.

It's not oil that the enviro-whackos are against, it's freedom.

Well, I guess we'll have to disagree. I say that it'll damage the fuel system, and you say that it won't - that it'll only require me to re-do the carb and it will eat holes in the fuel line, and that I'm a liar for suggesting such results constitute damage to the fuel system.

I expect that you've also forgotten about the plastic casing on the fuel filter.

Let's talk about fuel injectors. Studies have shown that there is an increase in deposits in the injectors and intake valves unless the levels of additives to the fuel are increased. There are also conflicting studies as to whether there is additional wear to the exhaust valves.

I get my rum from a plastic bottle, so it depends on the plastic. The replacing of the float in a carb was to make sure it wasn't Styrofoam based.

Ethanol is absolutely cleaner than gas for injectors. Studies, what studies? You mean the ones paid for by Exxon? There is no conflict except in your mind. Ask anybody that races alcohol engines if they leave deposits of ANY kind. ZERO, NADA, ZILCH! Maybe if they mixed Scotch in it you might get some scum somewhere, but not straight ethanol.

I still don't believe you drive a 15 year old car with a carb. That would be 1991 or newer. Maybe an Army Jeep or Postal van or something, but not one of the big 3. I drive a 91 GMC truck and they used FI since 1988. My 1976 VW camper had the fuel injected 2 liter in it.

Just as a test, take a jigger of ethanol and put it outside to evaporate with a jigger of gas. When they are both gone, rub your finger in the ethanol jigger first and then the gasoline jigger. The ethanol will be dry and clean and the gas will have scum. The ethanol will NOT hurt your engine, period! The only caveat is if you have a carb and the float and certain rubber types of hoses. The problems are easily fixed for a couple of bucks. You just have been brainwashed by the cult of the oil worshipers. I'm not against oil, I own stock in oil companies, I use petroleum every day, but to say no to all alternatives is just bull headed.

15 year old car with a carb. That would be 1991 or newer.

Oops. Thanks for poining out my error. I should have written that two of my cars are MORE than 15 years old. The newer of the two does have injectors. The older has a carb, and after the unfortunate Conoco experience, it did have fuel line issues. But who gets bent of of shape if a little gasoline gets sprayed around under the hood, right?

By the way, your comment about Styrofoam causing problems only for ethanol doesn't make much sense to me, since I saw as a pre teen what happened when I put gasoline in a Styrofoam cup.

Here are some info on engine wear: http://www.deh.gov.au/atmosphere/fuelquality/publications/biofuels-2004/engine.html and deposits: http://www.deh.gov.au/atmosphere/fuelquality/publications/review-vehicle-fleet/chapter5.html

here's an article I posted with some good information

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/02/06/8367959/index.htm