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Holocaust denier Irving is jailed [Three years]
BBC News on line ^ | February 20, 2006 | Unsigned

Posted on 02/20/2006 12:58:55 PM PST by aculeus

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To: Radix
A British man gave a speech in Austria, and is going to jail for violating a reactionary law more than 15 years ago?

You gotta remember that Europe fears, above all else, the resurrection of fascism. Holocaust denial is in their minds tantamount to neo-Nazism. (Probably not without cause.) In order to prevent fascism in general, and Nazism specifically, from taking root again, Europe has outlawed anything that cold conceivably aid it. Including Holocaust denial.

21 posted on 02/20/2006 1:19:39 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: MikeGranby

It's funny how lefties don't get imprisoned for also making up stuff!!


22 posted on 02/20/2006 1:20:11 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: jude24

Eesh. "cold" = "could."


23 posted on 02/20/2006 1:20:24 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

"It's funny how lefties don't get imprisoned for also making up stuff!!"

Case In Point: Noam Chomsky


24 posted on 02/20/2006 1:20:59 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yes, I saw that idiot in an interview on Irish TV recently, what a moonbat!!


25 posted on 02/20/2006 1:23:24 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: MikeGranby

I could not agree more,this idea is just plain damm stupid


26 posted on 02/20/2006 1:24:10 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: jude24

Intelligent of them to create martyrs for the neo-Nazis... Not to mention there is something just a little problematic about acting fascist to prevent fascism...


27 posted on 02/20/2006 1:37:26 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: elhombrelibre
He's been a crank for a long time. See this article for more background on him.

Mere cranks don't get this kind of treatment. People who swear on a stack of Bibles they've seen Elvis or Bigfoot, or have been abducted by aliens, or have proof that the U.S. government have been lying about UFOs get IGNORED. I'm not sure this is a good move on the part of the authorities.

28 posted on 02/20/2006 1:39:05 PM PST by ziggygrey
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To: elhombrelibre
He's been a crank for a long time. See this article for more background on him.

Mere cranks don't get this kind of treatment. People who swear on a stack of Bibles they've seen Elvis or Bigfoot, or have been abducted by aliens, or have proof that the U.S. government have been lying about UFOs get IGNORED. I'm not sure this is a good move on the part of the authorities.

29 posted on 02/20/2006 1:40:05 PM PST by ziggygrey
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To: aculeus

The guy had obviously not read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer either.


30 posted on 02/20/2006 1:42:16 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: aculeus
Free Speech is going away. As it is now illegal to teach certain of Gods law without being charged. So if we deny freedom for one thing then all freedoms will be gone. If we think that a denial of freedom of speech for something we feel strongly about is ok then soon our freedom of speak will also be denied.
31 posted on 02/20/2006 1:42:45 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: RegulatorCountry
But, twisted though he may be, he is being jailed for an opinion he expressed more than 15 years ago, and has since recanted. Which is more dangerous, the ravings of a crank or state authority to detain and imprison anyone with whom the state takes issue?

EXACTLY! This man and his ludicrous views are no more dangerous than the pathetic band of Nazis that cause so much fuss with their silly marches.

Making them criminals for stupid ideas only raises their status to martyrs, and gives them the legitimacy of at least being taken seriously by the legal system.

This action was wrong.

32 posted on 02/20/2006 1:45:49 PM PST by ziggygrey
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To: aculeus

I find it very hard to believe that in 2006, someone could go to jail for denying the Holocaust happened.


33 posted on 02/20/2006 1:47:34 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: aculeus

Freedom of speech remains an ideal only. Europe, a continent of hypocrites, has determined by law what a person can think and say about the holocaust. How dare they now cry out for freedom of speech for their cartoons?


34 posted on 02/20/2006 1:49:01 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: djf
Being a Holocaust denier is not about what an average person says or thinks, based on ignorance or little information.

It's about knowledgeable public personnae proclaiming things which have long been proven irrefutably false, having been attested to by millions of brutally massacred victims, who can no longer speak on their own behalf.

Such deniers are reasonably analogized to someone falsely shouting, "Fire!" in a crowded theater just to witness the stampede, mayhem and near-certain human injury.

Don't bother telling the police you "honestly thought" there was a fire when the evidence for fire is nowhere to be found.

HF

35 posted on 02/20/2006 1:49:19 PM PST by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: djf

Agreed. The man may be despicable, but no government should be arresting someone for having a wrong opinion like this. Until his opinions result in an action that harms another person, he should be free to think and say whatever he wants. But this is communist Europe and we all know what they are about.


36 posted on 02/20/2006 1:49:27 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: aculeus

Totally unacceptable. I wonder if the State Department will include this wrongful imprisonment in its Human Rights Report for Austria. It will be interesting to see what the MSM has to say about it, if anything. It certainly should be a free speech issue.


37 posted on 02/20/2006 1:50:58 PM PST by kabar
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To: fizziwig
This greases the skids for all manner of Orwellian laws.

Our hate crime laws come to mind.

38 posted on 02/20/2006 1:53:04 PM PST by kabar
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To: aculeus
Only someone who is a commie or a Nazi at heart would be happy that this guy is in jail.

Anyone who is an American -and supports the 1st Amendment - will think this is insane.

Thank God for the 1st Amendment. We still have free speech in THIS country.

Even for kooks and loonies.
39 posted on 02/20/2006 1:57:12 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Continental Soldier
Europe, a continent of hypocrites..... Your statement.

I was just thinking..... a great effort that I will concede. It was not Irving who rounded up the Austrian Jews and who loaded them into trucks for the concentration camps. Oh me, oh my- who could have done such a thing?

40 posted on 02/20/2006 2:00:48 PM PST by Peter Libra
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