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To: MineralMan

What Islam needs is a New Testament to the Koran just like the KJV of the bible needed one.


422 posted on 02/20/2006 10:57:58 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: eastforker

LOL! Good point.


425 posted on 02/20/2006 10:59:09 AM PST by najida (Gluten free, Sugar Free, Low Salt, Low Fat, High Fiber = Eating grass for the rest of your life.)
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To: eastforker

"What Islam needs is a New Testament to the Koran just like the KJV of the bible needed one."

I'd agree with that. The Old Testament is full of nasty business. I'm glad the New Testament is there. It keeps the world a little more habitable.

Imagine if we stoned adulterers as required in the Old Testament!


439 posted on 02/20/2006 11:06:05 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: eastforker
What Islam needs is a New Testament to the Koran just like the KJV of the bible needed one.

And there's where the problem is with interpreting "pure islam" and for it evolving thru any reformations or enlightenment:

THE DANGERS OF "BIDAH" (INNOVATONS) IN ISLAM

BIDAH (INNOVATIONS in Allaah's religion)

Linguistically Bid'ah (innovation) means 'a newly invented matter'.

The Sharee'ah definition of Bid'ah is: "A newly invented way [beliefs or action] in the religion, in imitation of the Sharee'ah (prescribed Law), by which nearness to Allaah is sought, [but] not being supported by any authentic proof - neither in its foundations, nor in the manner in which it is performed." Al-I'tisaam of ash-Shaatibee (1/37).

The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said: "Every innovation is misguidance and going astray" Reported by Abu Daawood (no. 4607), at-Tirmidhee (no. 2676) and it is saheeh. Ibn Hajr authenticated it Takhreej Ahaadeeth Ibn ul-Haajib (1/137).

And he (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) also said: "… and every innovation is misguidance and all misguidance is in the Hellfire." Reported by an-Nasaa'ee (1/224) from Jaabir bin Abdullaah and it is saheeh as declared by Shaikh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah in Majmoo' ul-Fataawaa (3/58).

The Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) also warned against the People of Innovation, from befriending, supporting or taking from them saying: "Whoever innovates or accommodates an innovator then upon him is the curse of Allaah, His Angels and the whole of mankind." Reported by Bukhaaree (12/41) and Muslim (9/140)

And in his footsteps, we find the Noble Companions and the Taabi'een after them warning from the danger of innovations upon the Ummah, its people and their unity, since it is innovations which have divided the Ummah and split it asunder.

Ibn Abbaas (d. 68H) said: "Indeed the most detestable of things to Allaah are the innovations." Reported by al-Bayhaqee in as-Sunan al-Kubraa (4/316)....

Ibn Umar (d. 84H) said: "Every innovation is misguidance, even if the people see it as something good." Reported by Abu Shaamah (no. 39)


441 posted on 02/20/2006 11:07:16 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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