Making Islam illegal -- is it the West's only choice?

Renew America ^ | 2/19/2006 | Warner Todd Huston

[Dad yer funny]

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[Fred Nerks]

The movie you are suggesting would not have to be a big budget production. Start with an internet version. Maybe it could be projected on a billboard (or the side of a mosque :).

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I do believe, as a result of the 'cartoon' episode, the West has a much clearer view of what we are dealing with, it's become a little more difficult for the cowards to try and shout the rest of us down, because they, and not we, are terrified of islam. The islamophobia we hear about is after all, a disease of the 'intellectuals' - the academics, the entertainers, the court jesters of our society, the frightened ones are those that have never exerted themselves to earn their daily bread. Like someone else said here on this board, the hunters, when they went hunting, left the artists at home...

Which brings us to who makes the movies? Who are the story-tellers? Traditionally, they sat by the fireside and chewed the fat while they entertained the tribe with oral tales of great catastrophies or tribal history, greatly embellished no doubt. For anything else, they were probably quite useless, but no doubt they felt superior.

Now, who will make this film? In scope, the story of the arab's flight from the Peninsula at the time of the Exodus, around three thousand five hundred years ago, their 400 years of rule in Egypt, being driven out by Saul the first king of Israel, (the Middle Kingdom of Egypt was established with the help of the descendants of egypts former slaves) the eventual rise of mohammad, his psychotic episodes, the suggestion (from arabic sources) that he was sodomized as a child, his various suicide attempts, all are documented...is a massive story.

THE STORY OF THE ARABS deserves a production more on the scale of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA than a downplaying of historical events. Mohammad's part in the STORY OF THE ARABS is surely quite minor. He brings together the threads of arabic, nomadic, parasitic culture and by plagiarizing from the story-tellers on the steps of the temple in Medina, makes 'holy' that which arabs have done for millenia, sweep across nation states and territories, plunder and kill, take into slavery and destroy all they come across. What they cannot carry or drive away, they burn and turn to ashes.

Yes, indeed, who will produce this film? The subject matter is much greater in scope than the simple story of one opportunistic, conniving, cunning individual who established a cult following that still thrives into our own times...because he discovered that men will always sell their souls to the devil so to speak, if every evil one can imagine is permitted and rewarded as the Will of Allah.

But he could never have achieved all this if he had not been an arab, IMO. In the heart and soul of every arab there lived a mohammad long before mohammad was born.

[ApplegateRanch]

Ultimately, if we are not willing to "become as bad as them", we are going to _lose_ this war.

All you also said!

What too many don't understand is that if we DO lose this one, who ever of our people are left, will be one of "them", or be dead.

They will not allow a third choice.

[higgmeister]

Then close them shut with a dark green glass slab.

[higgmeister]

Exactly correct. So, when a Muslim breaks our laws, we prosecute. Very simple.

Have you ever been blown up by a mad bomber that had
his head pop off and fly 200 feet north?

I don't think we have ever prosecuted bodiless heads and
you probably wouldn't be alive to be the first one to do it.

[Fred Nerks]

Sorry to butt in, I just couldn't help myself, the thought of charging the perps of 9/11 with mass murder gives me no satisfaction. But then, that's islam. There's not enough left of the criminal, homicidal 'suicide' killers to read their rights to.

[exnavy]

The moslim is a cult not a religon.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Islam does not recognize the United States' Constitution, it is a criminal organization.

“Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...”

[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]

Under the guise of “freedom of religion,” no man may become a law unto himself.

The RICO Act should be applied, their assets and property seized just like other racist and violent nut-job groups. They seek to supplant the Constitution with their own laws.

The First Amendment does not give you the right to commit ritual murder... nor is it a suicide pact.

(Personally, I would prefer to end it completely. Islam cannot exist without Mecca.)

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Islam does not recognize the United States' Constitution, it is a criminal organization.

Under the guise of “freedom of religion,” no man may become a law unto himself.

“Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...”

[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]

The RICO Act should be applied, their assets and property seized just like other racist and violent nut-job groups when they seek to supplant the Constitution with their own laws.

The First Amendment does not give you the right to commit ritual murder... nor is it a suicide pact.

End it completely - - Islam cannot exist without Mecca.

[Cornpone]

'Outlaw Islam, Outlaw Hate! Outlaw Islam, Outlaw Hate! Outlaw Islam, Outlaw Hate!'

I know its simplistic, stupid and irrational...just the sort of phrase you need for a picket line or bumber sticker:)

[exnavy]

Well said.

[Eye of Unk]

I think what may work the best is the underground movement of advertising anywhere on billboards, internet, TV, milk cartons and bumper stickers the true faces of Islam. The cartoons. Thus far its their achilles heel, even the "westernized muslims" are protesting, its like catnip to a pussy, like a flame to a moth. It may very well break open the sleeper cells inside the US and make them come out in the open.
But this needs to be done massively and everywhere even if it means breaking laws like hacking into satellite feeds.
If all this doesn't work then I say its time to bring back the internment camps.

[JamesP81]

Yes.

[boris]

"You're advocating murder. Reasonable people will never let that happen, you deal with it."

We are in a world war. When a soldier shoots an enemy soldier that is not murder. When a bomber bombs Nagasaki, (kiling innocent children) that is not murder either.

Will it be murder when another 9/11 happens? or a 9/11²?

They started killing civilians and innocents. The way to defeat them is to kill their civilians and innocents. Paraphrasing General Sherman, one wins a war by making the general population so miserable that they sue for peace.

--Boris

[boris]

"The movie you are suggesting would not have to be a big budget production. Start with an internet version. Maybe it could be projected on a billboard (or the side of a mosque."

The sound track is complete: All Your Base Are Belong to Us!

[Melas]

BS. You were talking about murdering Muslims on American soil, even children, not collateral damage in war. I guess there is a an upside to having your posts deleted. You can now deny it and the proof has been (justifiably) removed.

[Tokra]

The rule of law REQUIRES the free practice of religion in this country, that cannot be changed without undoing most of what this country stands for.

Realistically, there must be a line drawn somewhere. Would it be okay to allow Aztecs to practice human sacrifice? Of course not, because murder is illegal. So is treason and sedition - but we allow muslims to commit those acts because we don't want to infringe on their religious liberites.

As I said, there MUST be a line drawn somewhere. It's not all or nothing.

[Melas]

You're showing a singular inability to seperate advocation from action. It would be perfectly legal for an Aztec to advocate the practice of sacrifice IF ONLY IT WERE legal while acknowledging that it is illegal and not practicing it. We already have laws against terrorist activity and that's enough. We don't need to outlaw the religion.

[finnigan2]

"Making Islam "illegal" is unworkable and an affront to western ideals."

- I agree that making Islam illegal is unworkable and would only result in a bloodbath for Christians caught in those Islamic hellholes which operate under fanatical mullahs and Sharia laws.
However, if there is another 9/11 type atrocity visited on the US, I can easily see laws passed which would permit the immediate deportation of any Muslims who expressed support for or defended Islamic violence.

[antisocial]

"My mother-in-law's casserole gave me food poisoning at our Church mother-daughter dinner. Does that count?"


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