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To: justinellis329
First, we need the state to create property rights in the first place...

I have a problem with that statement. Indeed, I think it's the problem with statism. My property rights don't emanate from Teddy Kennedy! I would agree with the founders that they are "endowed by our creator," and transcend any state. Even from an evolutionary perspective, though, my rights don't come from Kennedy--they come from my willingness to defend them against Kennedy.

8 posted on 02/20/2006 6:51:20 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Shalom Israel


Teddy Kennedy doesn't create your rights. But the framework of government laid down in the Constitution does create legal rights for you -- it gives you an equal and free place in a political structure where you can vote, get a free trial, etc. That structure is supposed to defend your pre-state rights like to life and property; of course, you have the right to change that framework if you so choose...


11 posted on 02/20/2006 7:03:35 AM PST by justinellis329
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