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To: Shalom Israel
You posted at #504:

Any attempt to disarm you by force is illegal

Thus, leaving your gun in a locked vehicle while at work is, -- as you admit, -- an "actual inalienable human right".

I have an absolute right to keep you off my property, using deadly force if necessary.

You invited me to park on your property while working. You have no right to disarm me, as you admitted just above.

No, I didn't. I invited unarmed employees to park.

US citizens, as you admit, -- have an "actual inalienable human right" to be armed. You have no 'right' to demand they be unarmed in order to park while at work.

If you attempt to force your way onto my property, I will defend myself.

You invited me to park and to work. Having a gun in my vehicle is not using 'force' against you.

You can't claim that because Bob, who is unarmed, is invited, therefore I must invite you.

Both Bob and I have an inalienable right to carry arms in our vehicles while at work, as you admit. -- Any attempt to disarm Bob by force is illegal.

516 posted on 03/01/2006 9:31:32 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Both Bob and I have an inalienable right to carry arms in our vehicles while at work, as you admit. -- Any attempt to disarm Bob by force is illegal.

I can throw a party and issue a public proclamation that all persons over 5'10" in height are permitted to enter my property and attend the party. At the gate I erect a "You must be this tall..." sign, and in struct my bouncers to bar entry to anyone shorter than the sign. If someone actually tries to force his way onto the property, the bouncers (who are armed) are ordered to shoot.

My neighbor can throw a party at which anyone with a shooting iron may attend. Everyone entering the gate must display his weapon to his guards, who then deputize him. Anyone failing to demonstrate that he is armed is ordered to leave the property. If he refuses, the guards--and all deputies--are instructed to open fire on the trespasser.

My neighbor on the other side, feeling bad for the rejects at my and my neighbors' houses, can throw a party and invite only persons under 5'10" who have no firearms. His bouncers will check the height of guests, and pat them down. Violators--meaning anyone who is too tall and/or who has a firearm--will be ordered to leave by his guards. Anyone attempting to force his way onto the property will be shot.

Which of those three lacks the right to carry out his plans? All three? Only the third? And how exactly do you explain this owner's lack of power over his own property?

517 posted on 03/01/2006 9:39:35 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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