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To: Shalom Israel
You acknowledge:

In any society that respects (1) private property and (2) non-initiation of force, citizens must be able to keep and bear arms.
Not because of the second amendment; these societies presumably don't have the US constitution in the first place. Nevertheless, government (and anyone else) would be powerless to take your guns away.

Why is that? Because, firstly, you have the right to self defense, so your possession of weapons cannot be interpreted as the threat of illegal aggression. Secondly, nobody can tell you not to make, buy or sell a gun. Ergo, any attempt to disarm you by force is illegal, and you have the right to defend yourself from it.


Yes indeed, our Republic respects both private property and the non-initiation of force, and that citizens must be able to keep and bear arms as per the second amendment.
Therefor, government (and anyone else) should be powerless to take your guns away from you on the way to or from work.

Why is that? Because, firstly, you have the right to self defense, so your possession of weapons cannot be interpreted as the threat of illegal aggression. Secondly, nobody should be able to tell you not to make, buy or sell a gun. Ergo, any attempt to disarm you by force is illegal and unconstitutional, and you have the right to defend yourself from it.
Leaving your gun in a locked vehicle while at work is, -- as you admit, -- an "actual inalienable human right".

505 posted on 03/01/2006 7:35:45 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Yes indeed, our Republic respects...

Sigh. I clearly stated that my observation applies to every society that respects those things. I've asked you to stop with your illiterate replies; please comply.

Therefor, government (and anyone else) should be powerless to take your guns away from you on the way to or from work.

Conclusion: the US government does not respect private property and the non-initiation of force. It only partially respects those things. In many, many cases, it freely takes others' property, or regulates their property, or otherwise initiates aggression against citizens.

Leaving your gun in a locked vehicle while at work is, -- as you admit, -- an "actual inalienable human right".

I repeat my request concerning your illiterate answers. I have no right to prevent you making, buying or selling guns--but I have an absolute right to keep you off my property, using deadly force if necessary.

506 posted on 03/01/2006 7:45:38 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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