Force is not involved. My property is my own. If you don't want any sort of contractual relationship with me, then stay off my property. Once you enter my property, you have entered some sort of relationship with me: if you entered illicitly, then you've entered a predator-prey relationship; if you entered licitly, then you entered a contractual one.
Nobody forced you into anything, because nobody forced you onto my property.
when all the while you refuse to acknowledge you have any obligation under the social contract because you did not agree to it
I refuse to acknowledge any positive obligations whatsoever. The only obligation that exists a priori is the negative obligation not to aggress against another's person or property.
If I find myself on someone else’s land, the implication being that I did not intend to be there...
The classic example is "falling there from an airplane." The answer is that there are various reasons I would grant you a limited waiver--i.e., permission to get off my land--but I am not obligated to do so. Observe that if you fell onto a military base from an airplane, you would be either arrested or shot, and yet you'd somehow find that understandable. Likewise, my home is my military base. I may feel bad for you, landing there by accident and all, but that doesn't enforceable positive obligations.
I do claim the right to defend myself against his acting on his delusions and I claim the right as a member of our society to explain myself to judge and jury.
Those "rights" are not legitimate, unless you and I are already bound by prior agreement.
I deny signing by any means any kind of contract or agreement with the blanket terms you are trying to force on me.
Izzy responds:
stay off my property. Once you enter my property, you have entered some sort of relationship with me: if you entered illicitly, then you've entered a predator-prey relationship --
This "predator-prey relationship"/ absolute 'allodial' ownership stuff is total bunk.
Land ownership in the USA is constantly disputed.
One example occurs when land owners block hunting access to public lands. IE; -- I once shot a buck on National Forest land several miles south from where I had entered on a public road.
On my map I noticed a dead end section line road less than a mile away east from my kill at the beginning of private property. I packed the deer out to the dead end road, and found it not in use and illegaly posted by the adjacent owner. Ignoring the bogus 'no trespassing' sign, I continued packing out to where the road was in public use.
The owner saw me, and threatened to call the sheriff. I called his bluff, and the sheriff told him to get a life, -- that he couldn't block off a section line access easement.
Under izzies theory, the land owner could have shot me? -- Bull.
Do you deny bringing “fiery vengeance” and shooting into the discussion or are you saying they aren’t forms of force?
“Nobody forced you into anything, because nobody forced you onto my property. “
From a previous post: “My assumption was that I was on your land through no fault of my own, that I was run off the road…”
“permission to get off my land--but I am not obligated to do so. “
I deny signing by any means any kind of contract or agreement that I need your permission to get off your land.
“Those "rights" are not legitimate, unless you and I are already bound by prior agreement.”
I deny signing by any means any kind of contract or agreement to that effect.
In addition, you’re saying that my claim to explain myself to a judge and jury is not legitimate, which means you claim that my right to a trial by jury is not legitimate. Do you ever read your own stuff?
(Perceptive Lurkers: It was only a nibble.)