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To: KrisKrinkle
a belief that I did not claim

Your claimed "social contract" implies that the government can arrest be for turning "outlaw". I can be punished for breaching an agreement I never made. But that's only one example; please don't try and take the ridiculous position that you don't believe force can be initiated against me. Taxation, victimless crimes, and plenty more examples come to mind.

471 posted on 02/26/2006 2:09:33 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Shalom Israel

"Your claimed "social contract" implies..."

Ok. The foundation you used to attribute to me a belief that I did not claim was based on more than my statement "An implication which may be correct."

I'll grant you that.

Now as to "please don't try and take the ridiculous position that you don't believe force can be initiated against me."

I probably believe that to the same degree you appear to believe it, but in regard to different things.


Back in post 371 you wrote:

I can avoid any and all of the many implied contracts embodied in our culture. I don't have to let you ring my doorbell: I can put a sign up that says, "No visitors: violators will be shot." I can invite you to lunch by saying, "Yo, Kris, come on over for lunch--but if you tick me off, I promise I'll shoot you. Matter of fact, sign this, in case the police want some proof..."

Nobody but you would be initiating force in those instances. And you said people like me are "so scary."

And someplace in this mess you said that you told your boss you’d throw him out of your house if he spoke in therein in a manner of which you disapproved.

Granting that when you said "throw him out" you were using a figure of speech, what are you going to do if he goes limp on the living room floor and refuses to leave? How will you get him out without inititating force?


475 posted on 02/26/2006 4:29:14 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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