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To: Shalom Israel; KrisKrinkle
Izzy at #356:

Try something you've never tried before. Try saying what a contract is, what a "social" contract is, and how the Constitution is one. You'll find it eye opening.
-- you've never tried to define "social contract,"

Izzy not that long ago:

So far, you haven't actually said what a social contract is, so it's hard to attack your definition.
-- When you do, I'll smash your definition, sending you back to square one.

--- Here's a pretty good preamble to & definition of a social contract:

We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Posted at #343.

You made no effort to attack my definition then. -- And I doubt you can now.
#357

Kris comments:

For tpaine: If he declines to "smash" for me because his post was to you, I respectfully request you cut and paste the above definitions and send them to him.

As we see Kris, - Izzy cannot "smash" our Constitution, so he chose to 'answer' your post with another of his rambling diatribes.. -- In which he simply denies that he is bound by Constitutional law.

He's a Lysander Spooner type anarchist.

In his essay 'The Constitution of No Authority' Spooner opens:
"The Constitution has no inherent authority or obligation." - "It purports, at most, to be only a contract between persons living eighty years ago."

Spooner concludes:
"-- Inasmuch as the Constitution was never signed, nor agreed to, by anybody, as a contract, and therefore never bound anybody, and is now binding upon nobody; and is, moreover, such an one as no people can ever hereafter be expected to consent to, except as they may be forced to do so at the point of the bayonet, ... it is unfit to exist. --"

382 posted on 02/24/2006 7:20:35 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
--- Here's a pretty good preamble to & definition of a social contract: We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union...

Thanks for reminding me. I meant to reply to that, before I saw a flood from KrisKrinkle. To sum up your argument:

You want to prove: The Constitution is a social contract.
Your definition of social contract: The Constitution

Circular reasoning at its finest. Do you do bar mitzvahs?

383 posted on 02/24/2006 7:44:23 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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