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To: justinellis329
But the framework of government laid down in the Constitution does create legal rights for you -- it gives you an equal and free place in a political structure where you can vote, get a free trial, etc.

More like it creates the legal framework whereby you can defend your natural-law rights without having to go to "war," in the Lockean sense, each and every time your rights are trespassed. Suggesting anything man-made "creates" rights is simply dangerous in any context. What man creates, man can take away. What God creates, no man can take away.

374 posted on 02/24/2006 5:45:10 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
More like it creates the legal framework whereby you can defend your natural-law rights without having to go to "war," in the Lockean sense, each and every time your rights are trespassed. Suggesting anything man-made "creates" rights is simply dangerous in any context. What man creates, man can take away. What God creates, no man can take away.

Excellent.

The other side of it is that to maintain a fixed standard of order, a government can be "limited" only to the extent that people are willing and able to constrain their own actions. John Adams's comment on the Constitution being intended for a "moral and religious people" reflects this realization.

379 posted on 02/24/2006 6:24:01 AM PST by r9etb
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