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To: Shalom Israel

tpaine wrote: Our Constiututions contract doesn't need signing.


Shalom Israel wrote: Then it isn't a contract. Thanks for admitting it

kriskrinkle writes: If our Constitutions contract doesn't need signing and therefore is not a contract for that reason, then neither an implied contract or an adhesive contract are contracts because they don't need signing.


362 posted on 02/23/2006 8:30:50 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: tpaine

I meant to ping you on posts 360 and 362 and I screwed up my post 363.

It's too late and I'm getting tired and some of this is hard to wade through.

I beg your pardon.


364 posted on 02/23/2006 8:36:16 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: KrisKrinkle
If our Constitutions contract doesn't need signing and therefore is not a contract for that reason, then neither an implied contract or an adhesive contract are contracts because they don't need signing.

I do sign implied contracts. I do it by, for example, granting you permission to enter my land. Contracts of adhesion are invalid, and even US law (almost) agrees--for now. A contract of adhesion is a kind of trap: when I open the package, it grabs my ankle and won't let go. The intent behind them is to create the illusion of consent, as if I said to you, "By using the toilet anytime in March, you consent that I'm your rightful overlord." Use the toilet--I dare you! It only proves that you consent...

"Social" contracts are even less valid: someone imposes them on me even though I didn't open any package. They get the authority to do that from the "social contract". Which, of course, is binding, because I'm under this social contract. I came to be under it because someone imposed it on me. And he had the authority to impose it, because the social contract gives him that authority...

369 posted on 02/23/2006 11:11:53 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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