It's the most libertarian document ever produced. That doesn't mean it's perfect, of course--but if we have to have a government at all, I'd take the one Jefferson envisioned. But don't act so surprised that my scope is broader than America as it is! The founders tolerated slavery, yet I call it "wrong," so it's clear from the get-go that I have points of disagreement with the founders' original intent.
Rational libertarians agree that our US Constitution is a valid social contract...
Libertarians deny the existence of "social contracts". You're engaging in special pleading: instead of arguing for social contracts' validity, you're asserting that anyone who questions it is an idiot.
It's the most libertarian document ever produced. That doesn't mean it's perfect, of course--but if we have to have a government at all, I'd take the one Jefferson envisioned. But don't act so surprised that my scope is broader than America as it is!
Do you think Jeff would have condoned your "broad scope" parking lot gun bans?
The founders tolerated slavery, yet I call it "wrong," so it's clear from the get-go that I have points of disagreement with the founders' original intent.
Hiding behind slavery does not disguise your scorn for our RKBA's.
Now izzy wants to claim that all along he has been arguing utopian libertarian theory. --- [IE -- "you {can} ]sign a waiver, acknowledging that the landowner will shoot you if he feels like it."]
Bizarre stuff.
Rational libertarians agree that our US Constitution is a valid social contract based on the free will of everyone who resides in this country. Any individual is free to renounce citizenship and/or leave to avoid honoring our Constitution & its valid laws.
But it is implicit, -- that if you stay here, you play by Constitutional rules. -- [you do not ban guns in your parking lot]
Libertarians deny the existence of "social contracts".
Not rational ones, izzy. -- Do you really think you speak for libertarians? You're virtually an anarchist in most of your "special pleadings", -- some of the more bizarre of which I 'bolded' in my previous post..
You're engaging in special pleading: instead of arguing for social contracts' validity, you're asserting that anyone who questions it is an idiot.
Another unsupported "yo momma" type comment.
-- I've been arguing all along that you've been ignoring our Constitutions validity as a social contract.