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To: tpaine
Every statist communitarian on FR somehow wants to use 'property rights' to trump our right to carry arms. -- And you agree.

On the contrary, comrade, I will die to protect your right to bear arms. I will also die to defend your neighbor's right to kick you off his land for any reason he wishes, whether it be your arms, your race, your ugly mug, or his secret passion for your wife. Your rights and his are compatible. If you insist on violating his rights, he has the right to defend himself using deadly force, and I hope he does.

296 posted on 02/22/2006 8:32:47 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Shalom Israel
Every statist communitarian on FR somehow wants to use 'property rights' to trump our right to carry arms. -- And you agree.

I will die to protect your right to bear arms.

Except when I'm bearing them in my car trunk in the company parking lot. -- Bold words, but obviously specious.

I will also die to defend your neighbor's right to kick you off his land for any reason he wishes, whether it be your arms, your race, your ugly mug, or his secret passion for your wife.

Gotta love your 'defense' of irrationality.

Your rights and his are compatible.

They should be, but he irrationally wants me disarmed at work.

If you insist on violating his rights,

My gun in my trunk in no way violate his rights; and you cannot show such a violation. -- Can you try?

he has the right to defend himself using deadly force, and I hope he does.

Straw man. -- No one here has questioned his right to self defense, as you well know.

297 posted on 02/22/2006 10:18:43 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Shalom Israel

“If you insist on violating his rights, he has the right to defend himself using deadly force, and I hope he does.”

And if he insists on violating my rights, I have the right to defend myself using deadly force (but I would add “if necessary”).


What’s in dispute is where the property owner’s rights end and the rights of anyone else begin.


322 posted on 02/22/2006 7:10:02 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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