First Americans May Have Been European

LiveScience.com ^ | 2/19/06 | Bjorn Carey

[anton]

If European settlers had just delayed few hundred years, the savages would have killed each other off and there wouldn't be any Indian casinos.

[RushLake]

"The politically correct crowd won't like this at all and fully reject it."

Don't look for the National Geographic to feature this. They would never bump a spread on the glories of Cuba under Castro or Chavez's Venezuela.

[RushLake]

"So does this mean, the next time I fill out a job application, I can refer to myself as a "Native American?"

Where do you live?

[albionvectis]

As all human life originated in what is now Africa, shouldn't that title read 'Original Americans were African'?

[tioga]

So women went on these hunting trips? If not they would have not been able to reproduce.

[OldEagle]

I dislike sloppy writing. Of course, the author means "what is now Spain and France."

I do too. I'll point out two other things that bug me. The author refers to ice flows which should be floes and uses may instead of might in the title.

[Sam Cree]

"Stanford has an idea for how humans crossed the Atlantic, though — boats."

Seems logical!

[elcid1970]

Ja, wohl! Ich bin auch ein echter "Ur-Amerikaner!"

Geben Sie mir jetzt, die ganze Casinos zuruck!

[dread78645]

Quite likely different people used different routes, just as the Europeans did after Colombus. Also there is some shifting of the currents as the earth gets warmer or cooler. Ancient man was probably much better at living from materials harvested from the sea.

But we're discussing crossing the Atlantic from Spain to the New World via the Equatorial current. It took Columbus 33 days at an average of ~5.4 kts before landfall. That's 4,200 nautical miles.
Even with a generous 1kt equatorial current, you're talking nearly 6 months at sea. And contrary to your belief, there's very little to 'harvest' once you get beyond the continental shelf.

Certainly Thor Heyerdahl crossed the Atlantic from Morocco to Barbados (3,300 miles. 57 days) in a reed boat. But they used sails and were provisioned with food and water. A few things I doubt pre-agricultural humans had.

[dread78645]

So women went on these hunting trips?

Captain Obvious strikes again.

;->

[MrBambaLaMamba]

I want my reparations NOW!

[tioga]

I find it hard to believe that a lone lost hunting party had enough females in it to survive and populate the whole country. This is a theory full of lots of hot air.

[Jimmy Valentine]

"Why not, Ward Churchill did!"

Boy, if this proves out will he ever feel like a chump!

[ThanhPhero]

Easy answer: They left the artists at home when they went hunting.

[ThanhPhero]

No. That's not the lesson here, really. Everybody kind of spread out. I believe the Americas wer pretty multiculti way back when. The Indians from different parts of the US had different aspects altogether back when artists were painting them in their unassimilated state. And later groups did tend to take over. That's how we would get to see them in the record and the gene pool. Perhaps the Euros were before the Asians and perhaps they were a less successful group because they were subsumed. So which is the occasion of pride and whatever for?

[S0122017]

Undeniably brought the world the best system of government and justice - even if in some parts of the world is at first only appied to him


I think maybe you are a little bit biased in youre history.

A few examples, The incas had a governmental system that granted everyone food and housing, the asians had a political system far more advanced than that of contemporary europeans, the sumerians and egyptians had a vast governmental system which distributed power and responsibility to reach every corner or their lands.

Europeans and american descendents where not the ones that invented succesfull governments. They did had a lot of influence in modern times due to colonisation and trading.

[divine_moment_of_facts]

LOL! I know! I remember when this story came out almost a year ago... Seems the First North Americans(Europeans)were wiped out by Asians and South Americans who came here later.
There was a 5000 year old Caucasian skeleton found in
Washington State during the Clinton administration. Clinton tried his best to do a cover-up and the MSM (buried)the story.

[USF]

PING.

[Coyoteman]

I tend to believe that the first Americans came by boat from the South Pacific and went north.

Some new information on this at the following link.

[DavemeisterP]

If the surface ocean currents redirected, which may have contributed (or caused) the ice age, then whatever the the surface was doing back then could have led to completely different scenarios than today. I believe that there was low pressure systems in place in the Northern Atlantic and Pacific that pumped prevailing winds north onto the pole, thereby driving cold air south over the continents. This type of event would heat up the poles, unless the ocean currents redirected. This is the ONLY reason we just had a winter blast. I saw this cold coming 2 weeks ago..lol